The Inauguration

[Thomas]

3 minutes ago, Angels#1Fan said:

See my post above..this isn't 1795 anymore the majority of people live in the city in 20017 and their vote should count for just as much as the people that live in Wyoming!

Well if there is any consistency in this world, it's those that would eschew previous agreements to fulfill the thirst for more power.

[Thomas]

Just now, Angels#1Fan said:

That was a reelection

So it was called the 2008 US Presidential Reelection?

[Thomas]

Just now, calscuf said:

Seriously?

So the nuances of the electoral process escape you?

[Angels#1Fan]

1 minute ago, Thomas said:

So it was called the 2008 US Presidential Reelection?

Have it your way if you want but the fact is that the way we elect our president doesn't reflect the will of the people and with Bush winning over Gore and Trump winning over Clinton after losing the popular is all the proof that is necessary! It's kind of like Trump claiming his inauguration crowd was the biggest ever. lol Who should I believe, Trump, or my lying eyes?

[Thomas]

Just now, Angels#1Fan said:

Have it your way if you want but the fact is that the way we elect our president doesn't reflect the will of the people and with Bush winning over Gore and Trump winning over Clinton after losing the popular is all the proof that is necessary! It's kind of like Trump claiming his inauguration crowd was the biggest ever. lol Who should I believe, Trump, or my lying eyes?

You have lying eyes?

[Angels#1Fan]

7 minutes ago, Thomas said:

The removal of the electoral college would achieve exactly that? Citation?

The electoral College doesn't need to be removed, it needs to be adjusted to more accurately reflect the will of the American voter. As it is now if you live in the city your vote counts for less than the people that live in more rural places and this just isn't how a democracy is supposed to work..again this isn't 1795 anymore and America doesn't need to be protected by a few white male land owners dictating to the masses.

[Thomas]

Just now, calscuf said:

You're fucking with me?

You must be new here.

[Thomas]

Just now, Angels#1Fan said:

The electoral College doesn't need to be removed, it needs to be adjusted to more accurately reflect the will of the American voter. As it is now if you live in the city your vote counts for less than the people that live in more rural places and this just isn't how a democracy is supposed to work..again this isn't 1795 anymore and America doesn't need to be protected by a few white male land owners dictating to the masses.

I look forward to the Tribal reservations being even more ignored than usual in this world.

[gotbeer]

Inauguration Crowd Photos: Trump vs. Obama, Bush & Clinton Comparisons

 

While definitely Obama had more.  Trumps inauguration at inauguration time is quite different than the photos being spread a few hours in the rain before the inauguration.  And compared to Clinton and Bush, I guess people just realized that people counting was an important measuring stick.

[Thomas]

Just now, calscuf said:

Arguing over the number of people at the  inauguration seems pretty dumb.  

Just another example of Trump dictating the message.

[UndertheHalo]

7 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Just another example of Trump dictating the message.

I'm starting to buy this take

[Angels#1Fan]

13 minutes ago, calscuf said:

Arguing over the number of people at the  inauguration seems pretty dumb.  

Yup, and the president and his press secretary lying about it is even dumber.

The truth is that someone mentioned that the crowd was on the small side which is an accurate thing to report. Then Trump made it a big deal and turned it into what it is. His ego is such that he believes he had the biggest turn out ever and the biggest tv ratings ever. lol The fact that at least Obama and Reagan in their first term had vastly larger crowds and better ratings is lost on Trump. Trump made this what it has become because he has a need to lie about it (just like he lied about Muslims celebrating in New Jersey on 9/11) and then send his press secretary out to lie some more about it. If that hadn't happened there wouldn't even be any more said about.

[Spirit]

21 minutes ago, Angels#1Fan said:

The electoral College doesn't need to be removed, it needs to be adjusted to more accurately reflect the will of the American voter. 

 

The American votes put the GOP in charge of both the Senate and the House.  Seems like the electoral college reflected their will quite well with the Presidential piece too. 

 

Unfortunately

 

 

 

[Spirit]

10 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Just another example of Trump dictating the message.

 

The moment that people (especially those in the media) wake up to this is the moment things will start to change.

 

You need to get woke, people!!!

 

 

 

[Thomas]

2 minutes ago, Angels#1Fan said:

Yup, and the president and his press secretary lying about it is even dumber.

The truth is that someone mentioned that the crowd was on the small side which is an accurate thing to report. Then Trump made it a big deal and turned it into what it is. His ego is such that he believes he had the biggest turn out ever and the biggest tv ratings ever. lol The fact that at least Obama and Reagan in their first term had vastly larger crowds and better ratings is lost on Trump. Trump made this what it has become because he has a need to lie about it and then send his press secretary out to lie some more about it. If that hadn't happened there wouldn't even be any more said about.

You're being played by the POTUS.

[Thomas]

1 minute ago, Geoff said:

(especially those in the media)

That ship has sailed!

[Angels#1Fan]

1 minute ago, Thomas said:

You're being played by the POTUS.

Was he playing you when he lied about Muslims celebrating in New Jersey on 9/11?

Was he playing you when he said that all the Mexicans coming here are rapist? lol

Seems like he's doing a lot of playing ie: lying..maybe it's just a matter of perspective.

[Spirit]

5 minutes ago, Angels#1Fan said:

Yup, and the president and his press secretary lying about it is even dumber.

The truth is that someone mentioned that the crowd was on the small side which is an accurate thing to report. Then Trump made it a big deal and turned it into what it is. His ego is such that he believes he had the biggest turn out ever and the biggest tv ratings ever. lol The fact that at least Obama and Reagan in their first term had vastly larger crowds and better ratings is lost on Trump. Trump made this what it has become because he has a need to lie about it (just like he lied about Muslims celebrating in New Jersey on 9/11) and then send his press secretary out to lie some more about it. If that hadn't happened there wouldn't even be any more said about.

 

 

[Thomas]

Just now, Angels#1Fan said:

Was he playing you when he lied about Muslims celebrating in New Jersey on 9/11?

Was he playing you when he said that all the Mexicans coming here are rapist? lol

Seems like he's doing a lot of playing ie: lying..maybe it's just a matter of perspective.

Yes yes yes!!!!!!  Of course he's lying. He's a fucking con man!
He's a conman who know how to manipulate the media while making entirely too many people think he's too much an idiot to do so. His systematic destruction of the media isn't exactly going unnoticed. Even though it is from the literal "fake" media.

 

[Angels#1Fan]

6 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Yes yes yes!!!!!!  Of course he's lying. He's a fucking con man!
He's a conman who know how to manipulate the media while making entirely too many people think he's too much an idiot to do so. His systematic destruction of the media isn't exactly going unnoticed. Even though it is from the literal "fake" media.

 

Trump isn't "manipulating" the media lol and the "fake media" didn't get up in front of the world and lie about the crowd or the Muslims in New Jersey. lol

You'll just have to deal with it because Trump has started a war with the media that he calls fake..if he was truly smart he would know he can't win that war..just ask Nixon.

[Thomas]

Just now, Angels#1Fan said:

Trump isn't "manipulating" the media lol and the "fake media" didn't get up in front of the world and lie about the crowd. lol

You'll just have to deal with it because Trump has started a war with the media that he calls fake..if he was truly smart he would know he can't win that war..just ask Nixon.

He WANTED the media to talk about the crowds. Why else make such a big deal about it? By doing that the media wasn't talking nearly as much about that "other" political event that happened yesterday. 

[Ordos]

3 minutes ago, Thomas said:

He WANTED the media to talk about the crowds. Why else make such a big deal about it? By doing that the media wasn't talking nearly as much about that "other" political event that happened yesterday. 

Exactly. He's been controlling the narrative like this for months, and people keep taking the bait.

[Angels#1Fan]

Just now, Thomas said:

He WANTED the media to talk about the crowds. Why else make such a big deal about it? By doing that the media wasn't talking nearly as much about that "other" political event that happened yesterday. 

The media is talking plenty about the "other" event yesterday. Trump's lying didn't change that at all. But the sorriest part is that people seem to think that Trump lying is some kind of acceptable ploy and have in one day become apologist for his boorish behaviour. It took all of one day for Trump and members of his administration to embarrass American.  

[Thomas]

1 minute ago, Angels#1Fan said:

The media is talking plenty about the "other" event yesterday. Trump's lying didn't change that at all. But the sorriest part is that people seem to think that Trump lying is some kind of acceptable ploy and have in one day become apologist for his boorish behaviour. It took all of one day for Trump and members of his administration to embarrass American.  

Acceptable ploy?  He's going to fucking destroy whatever free Democratic values we have left in this country if the public doesn't unite against it.

[Angels#1Fan]

5 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Acceptable ploy?  He's going to fucking destroy whatever free Democratic values we have left in this country if the public doesn't unite against it.

I'm afraid that not much will happen until 4 years have passed and then hope he is voted out of office..we're stuck with him until then.