Lackey Is A Horse!

[ELEVEN]

Discuss...

[wopphil]

If the Cubs win the world series, will Lackey get credit for the Triple Crown (WS wins with the Angels, Red Sox and Cubs)?

[ten ocho recon scout]

5 minutes ago, wopphil said:

If the Cubs win the world series, will Lackey get credit for the Triple Crown (WS wins with the Angels, Red Sox and Cubs)?

Damn, great point!

A horse replacing a billy goat

[Inside Pitch]

7 hours ago, wopphil said:

If the Cubs win the world series, will Lackey get credit for the Triple Crown (WS wins with the Angels, Red Sox and Cubs)?

If he does he will have won a WS with three teams that were by many believed to have been cursed....   Say what you will, John Lackey will have had a pretty eventful and successful MLB career.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

9 hours ago, ELEVEN said:

Discuss...

Lackey Is A Horse!

That's the reason for the long face?

[AngelsLakersFan]

3 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

If he does he will have won a WS with three teams that were by many believed to have been cursed....   Say what you will, John Lackey will have had a pretty eventful and successful MLB career.

Can we say that Lackey was the best player from the 2002 team?

[wopphil]

3 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

If he does he will have won a WS with three teams that were by many believed to have been cursed....   Say what you will, John Lackey will have had a pretty eventful and successful MLB career.

Lots of playoff experience. He has been a stable of the postseason, for sure. 

[Oz27]

9 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Can we say that Lackey was the best player from the 2002 team?

That's a tough call. Salmon, Glaus, Lackey and K-Rod all have pretty similar cases.

[UndertheHalo]

this is well played.  nice work

[AngelsLakersFan]

Just now, Oz27 said:

That's a tough call. Salmon, Glaus, Lackey and K-Rod all have pretty similar cases.

fWAR

Salmon: 35.4
Glaus: 34.5
Rodriguez: 17.2 (27 WPA)
Lackey: 42.9

But the real answer is Kevin Appier... 50.8! ha!

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Can we say that Lackey was the best player from the 2002 team?

Thats a pretty good question.   Based on pure physical talent ..  I'd have said Glaus, but on career productivity, Lackey is hard to beat.   Glaus was on his way to being a special player then the back issues hit him.

[m0nkey]

Brad Fullmer for most juiced

[Junkballer]

He was a stud last night.  His pimp hoof was strong.

[Taylor]

2 hours ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Can we say that Lackey was the best player from the 2002 team?

He definitely seems to be jockeying for that distinction.

[Ohtaniland]

Lowest H9 in his career. He's getting better with age. He could very well finish his career with 200 wins / 2500 K's in 3000 innings pitched. HOF material.

[happybat4]

1 hour ago, Inside Pitch said:

Thats a pretty good question.   Based on pure physical talent ..  I'd have said Glaus, but on career productivity, Lackey is hard to beat.   Glaus was on his way to being a special player then the back issues hit him.

The steroids he took helped as well. 

[Angel Oracle]

42 minutes ago, CALZONE said:

Lowest H9 in his career. He's getting better with age. He could very well finish his career with 200 wins / 2500 K's in 3000 innings pitched. HOF material.

Not enough for MLB HOF, but could a Halos HOF induction be forthcoming once his career is over?   He only pitched for 7.5 seasons here.

[kevinb]

He is absolutely awesome. Didn't he win the series with the Sox as well? 

[ten ocho recon scout]

Ive always regretted letting him go. And yes, i know he had arm problems in boston and missed time, but the negotiations should have been handled better....at least the angels should have learned from it...but sadly,didnt.

I know lackey and nap are argument starters on here, and both sides have points. But you see their value since they left, and their clubhouse rep...the 2000s teams had a different chemistry that we havent really seen since. Lackey for sure was a big part of it. Napoli could have been....

Shoulder shrug.

[ettin]

It is a little known fact that in Lackey's contract it is required that he be given a private suite with beer, chicken wings, and the entire catalog of Clint Eastwood movies to watch.

They call that contract his Pale Rider.

[Oz27]

Remember all the laughing at Lackey's contract with Boston, after his terrible first two seasons? One thing I have learned (or at least tried to) recently is not to do a victory lap before the race is over, because sometimes things change very emphatically in this game very quickly. Lackey ended up being paid about $81 million over that contract and was worth 9.5 wins, or $8.5 million for win (which is about the dollars per win market rate). That contract ended up being just fine.

[tdawg87]

4 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Not enough for MLB HOF, but could a Halos HOF induction be forthcoming once his career is over?

Neigh.

[Taylor]

Thinking about Lackey's Game 7 victory in 2002 really stirrups my emotions.

[ELEVEN]

2 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Ive always regretted letting him go. And yes, i know he had arm problems in boston and missed time, but the negotiations should have been handled better....at least the angels should have learned from it...but sadly,didnt.

I know lackey and nap are argument starters on here, and both sides have points. But you see their value since they left, and their clubhouse rep...the 2000s teams had a different chemistry that we havent really seen since. Lackey for sure was a big part of it. Napoli could have been....

Shoulder shrug.

Ocho, why the long face?

[tdawg87]

9 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Thinking about Lackey's Game 7 victory in 2002 really stirrups my emotions.

You won't be feeling that way furlong