Why Not Try Austin Jackson?

[Docwaukee]

The Jackson offer was long ago. I don't think they are actively pursuing anyone at this time.

Article says that the timing of the offer was around when we tried to acquire Saunders.  

[Blarg]

The article doesn't give a timetable. Boras is an idiot for not taking what is offered after mid January for a guy with a career slide of three years. I'm glad he didn't accept because the Angels don't need an expensive Mat Joyce.

Edited February 26, 2016 by notti

[VariousCrap]

If Eppler has the magic touch and believes in Nava/Gentry, why are the halos now pursing alternative options?  

 

Seems like we are now second guessing the path we've taken as spring is starting?  Fan freaking tastic.  

 

 

 

I agree with this 100%.  Eppler knows the current platoon is laughable and he wants to upgrade it.  Jackson would be an upgrade over this platoon.

 

Jackson may regret not signing a 1/6 deal, because I think his price goes down from here.  The reality is that the Angels are the only team out there that really needs him.

[VariousCrap]

The article doesn't give a timetable. Boras is an idiot for not taking what is offered after mid January for a guy with a career slide of three years. I'm glad he didn't accept because the Angels don't need an expensive Mat Joyce.

 

 

No...the article clearly uses the word RECENTLY.

 

 MLB.com’s Alden Gonzalez reports that they’ve also recently made a one-year offer to free-agent outfielder Austin Jackson. 

 

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/02/angels-make-offer-austin-jackson.html

[Blarg]

Recently is not a day, date or time. It is a confession he doesn't know when the offer was made but wanted to lump it in.

 

Jackson's last three seasons OPS+ 104, 87, 95. He has had one good season in 2012, all others are barely at or well below league average.

[bloodbrother]

Maybe they liked Jackson all along and thought his price would by lower at this point, it probably should be.

 

Not with Boras as his agent

[Second Base]

Eppler is showing what he really believes. Don't get me wrong, both Nava and Gentry are good guys to invite to camp, good reclamation projects. Gentry in particular is a valuable 4th OF. But they aren't guys that a team with championship aspirations slots as their starting LF. The fact that they platoon makes it more palatable, but still difficult to stomach.

The LF situation isn't good enough. Maybe Choi works out but who knows? Maybe one of Nava or Gentry bounce back, but that's not something we should bet on. I like Ortega and Hinshaw, but they're AAA for now.

And as for Austin Jackson, 5 million is what you spend on a late reclamation project with upside. Austin is a little better than that. But he isn't worth the 11 million Fowler got. But a fair middle ground between the two is 1 year 8 million with a second year option of 10 million.

I'm not saying the Angels have to do this, but I think Jackson is worth 1/8.

[WallyWorld]

So it seems that if Arte made this offer, he really was/is OK with going over the luxury tax. Which means the Angels not signing Heyward/Upton/Cespedes/Gordon really was about thinking none of them were worth the years/$$ they were seeking, and not wanting to put another expensive band-aid on the situation. I think that's ultimately the right call.

[VariousCrap]

Recently is not a day, date or time. It is a confession he doesn't know when the offer was made but wanted to lump it in.

 

 

 

LOL....ok.

[VariousCrap]

So it seems that if Arte made this offer, he really was/is OK with going over the luxury tax. Which means the Angels not signing Heyward/Upton/Cespedes/Gordon really was about thinking none of them were worth the years/$$ they were seeking, and not wanting to put another expensive band-aid on the situation. I think that's ultimately the right call.

 

 

And not losing the pick with most of those.

[totdprods]

He said as much recently. The luxury tax isn't the threshold. But paying tax overage is something with weight as to what they pay for.

[ksangel]

Someone else may be able to provide a link but I believe the luxury tax is calculated at the end of the year so going over now to sign a player may not actually count.

 

i.e. they could trade someone later and be under

[arch stanton]

Eppler is showing what he really believes. Don't get me wrong, both Nava and Gentry are good guys to invite to camp, good reclamation projects. Gentry in particular is a valuable 4th OF. But they aren't guys that a team with championship aspirations slots as their starting LF. The fact that they platoon makes it more palatable, but still difficult to stomach.

The LF situation isn't good enough. Maybe Choi works out but who knows? Maybe one of Nava or Gentry bounce back, but that's not something we should bet on. I like Ortega and Hinshaw, but they're AAA for now.

And as for Austin Jackson, 5 million is what you spend on a late reclamation project with upside. Austin is a little better than that. But he isn't worth the 11 million Fowler got. But a fair middle ground between the two is 1 year 8 million with a second year option of 10 million.

I'm not saying the Angels have to do this, but I think Jackson is worth 1/8.

But if you spend $8 mil on Jackson you're committed to him for the year or you eat a big part of it after you DFA. Didn't work with Ibanez or Joyce. Too much to commit to a guy whose best skill is striking out.

[mrwicked]

Eppler is showing what he really believes. Don't get me wrong, both Nava and Gentry are good guys to invite to camp, good reclamation projects. Gentry in particular is a valuable 4th OF. But they aren't guys that a team with championship aspirations slots as their starting LF. The fact that they platoon makes it more palatable, but still difficult to stomach.

The LF situation isn't good enough. Maybe Choi works out but who knows? Maybe one of Nava or Gentry bounce back, but that's not something we should bet on. I like Ortega and Hinshaw, but they're AAA for now.

And as for Austin Jackson, 5 million is what you spend on a late reclamation project with upside. Austin is a little better than that. But he isn't worth the 11 million Fowler got. But a fair middle ground between the two is 1 year 8 million with a second year option of 10 million.

I'm not saying the Angels have to do this, but I think Jackson is worth 1/8.

 

i doubt anyone in the org has championship aspirations.

they just need to survive the hamilton $$, get some players around trout and start re-stocking the farm.

[Jay]

But he is just barley league average.

 

Barley league?  Is that like Beer league?

[WallyWorld]

i doubt anyone in the org has championship aspirations.

they just need to survive the hamilton $$, get some players around trout and start re-stocking the farm.

 

i would say around 20 of the 30 teams have championship aspirations this year, including the Angels. It's baseball, it's not just the sum of the parts.

[Blarg]

Barley league? Is that like Beer league?

More like the IPA league where there is more than one hops.

[Second Base]

But if you spend $8 mil on Jackson you're committed to him for the year or you eat a big part of it after you DFA. Didn't work with Ibanez or Joyce. Too much to commit to a guy whose best skill is striking out.

Never once in Jackson's career has he been a DFA candidate. At his very worst, he's a 1.5 win player, and that's only because he isn't a good CF anymore, which he would t be playing here. At his best, Austin is a 5-win player, better than everyone on the team not named Trout.

It's highly likely Jackson would post positive defensive numbers in LF and bat around his career average which is .273/.333 30 DB 5 triples 10 HR's and 20 SB.

That's good for 3-4 wins. And that's worth 8 million.

[Erstad Grit]

i doubt anyone in the org has championship aspirations.

they just need to survive the hamilton $$, get some players around trout and start re-stocking the farm.

 

Wy would we. It's not like 2 years ago we had the best record in baseball and last year did not get eliminated until game 162. 

[ScottT]

The going rate for one win is in the neighborhood of $8 million.

[CanadianHalo]

$12 million for one win if your last name is Pujols

[arch stanton]

Never once in Jackson's career has he been a DFA candidate. At his very worst, he's a 1.5 win player, and that's only because he isn't a good CF anymore, which he would t be playing here. At his best, Austin is a 5-win player, better than everyone on the team not named Trout.

It's highly likely Jackson would post positive defensive numbers in LF and bat around his career average which is .273/.333 30 DB 5 triples 10 HR's and 20 SB.

That's good for 3-4 wins. And that's worth 8 million.

I think that's highly unlikely and not worth an $8 million risk. Time will tell.

[California Cajun]

Arte absolutely hates Bora$.  Unless it's a situation like Weaver, who specifically wants to play for the Angels, Arte will never deal with him.

 

I also think he's reeling from the Hamilton deal and isn't very anxious to spend money.  Eppler probably wasn't allowed to do more than he did this offseason.

[seenoevil]

How about wanting nobody threads, maybe the Angels will sign someone. #Reverse psychology

Edited February 27, 2016 by seenoevil

[Wallerrrr]

Austin Jackson sucks

Edited February 27, 2016 by Wallerrrr