Worst Offseason

[happybat4]

We had the worst offseason in AL according to ESPN

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14786897/best-worst-mlb-offseason

 

[the dude abides]

Any offseason where we don't sign an aging veteran to a $20MM/yr + contract is a success in my book.

[Second Base]

I refuse to trust any article that claims David Price and Zachary Greinke were the runaway best signings, and that Craig Kimbrel was "good for the Red Sox".

This just oozed the typical ESPN Red Sox-Yankee homerism.

[totdprods]

One bright side to waiting out the FA market this offseason is we've moved up to #16 and may still move up another spot or two in the draft.

If we wind up blowing chunks in 2016, we position ourselves nicely for a protected pick for 2017, when we'll have a larger draft $$$ pool and Baldoquin restrictions lift - where we wind up with a larger international bonus pool as well. So, in a way Eppler restructured the team in a way that may compete in 2016, but if not we're set up well to add to the farm in this draft, next draft, and next international signing period without having yet undergone a rebuild.

[Angel Oracle]

At least ST starts for pitchers/catchers tomorrow.

The off-season has been too long.

[gurn67]

We've had worse. Acquiring Hubie Brooks & Von Hayes is one I'll never forget and nothing will ever top the franchise killing Vernon Wells trade.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

Every year the team that "wins" the offseason according to ESPN and other sites is one that dishes out at least one big long-term contract.  Very rarely do those work out and we've see how far "winning" the offseason got the Angels in recent years.  Winning the offseason is like getting a gold star in kindergarten.    

[Erstad Grit]

Worst offseason is when we signed Hamilton 

[happybat4]

I refuse to trust any article that claims David Price and Zachary Greinke were the runaway best signings, and that Craig Kimbrel was "good for the Red Sox".

This just oozed the typical ESPN Red Sox-Yankee homerism.

They were not the best bargain signings, but they are the most impactful. I am not sure how you can argue they are not going to have a big impact. They do another sections where they have the best bargain signings. Kimbrel is lights out, he would be great for anybody.

[laagamer]

F-

[Erstad Grit]

We got the best defensive SS since Vizquel for the prime years of his career and Newcomb's minor league whip is 1.30

 

I like this offseason

[VariousCrap]

It was a horrible offseason in that the organization did little to improve the team for 2016.

[Inside Pitch]

Worst offseason is when we signed Hamilton 

 

Was that really worse than the year of the fearsome foursome?  

[Troll Daddy]

So according to ESPN the off season is over? There's still close to 60 free agents looking for work.

[nikkachez]

Seriously? I'll take Simmons, alone, over Byung-Ho Park, Murphy, and Abad (the Twins). Napoli, Davis, Thatcher, Hunter, Gorzelanny, Detwiler (the Indians). Or Lewis, Ruggiano, Wilhelmsen, and Davis (the Rangers). I'd even say Simmons and Escobar plus the overall depth added (Pennington, Soto, Ortega, and Choi) is better than Chapman, Castro, and Hicks (the Yankees), and arguably better than Happ, Estrada, Chavez, Storen, and Floyd (the Jays). 

 

While I agree that the offseason sucked, there's a difference between not spending like crazy/being conservative and actually having a poor offseason. I like a majority of the moves Eppler's made, a nice left fielder would've just really been the cherry on top. 

[wopphil]

I have been a big critic of the Angels this off-season, but it isn't fair to call it the "worst off-season" in baseball. Not even close. We got a good replacement for Freese, a great replacement for Aybar, and some pieces that help our bench depth. The only deficiency, and granted it is a huge one, is the failure to address left field (though my bold prediction is that second base will be a more troublesome spot for us this year).

On the whole, I'd probably grade the off-season a C.

[Troll Daddy]

Best free-agent signings

Zack Greinke (Diamondbacks): 14

David Price (Red Sox): 13

Howie Kendrick (Dodgers): 10

John Lackey (Cubs): 9

Ben Zobrist (Cubs): 8

Alex Gordon (Royals): 6

Yoenis Cespedes (Mets): 6

Justin Upton (Tigers): 5

I found this list interesting. I guess Heyward didn't make the list. Howie was a steal!

[mrwicked]

angels fans offseasons over the years

just when you think the org might finally figure it out...

 

[Blarg]

I refuse to trust any article that claims David Price and Zachary Greinke were the runaway best signings, and that Craig Kimbrel was "good for the Red Sox".

This just oozed the typical ESPN Red Sox-Yankee homerism.

The Yankees didn't sign any free agents of note this offseason

[Blarg]

Was that really worse than the year of the fearsome foursome?

Yes. Those were short term one and done mistakes.

[nikkachez]

I refuse to trust any article that claims David Price and Zachary Greinke were the runaway best signings, and that Craig Kimbrel was "good for the Red Sox".

This just oozed the typical ESPN Red Sox-Yankee homerism.

Agreed (for once). I think the Cubs getting Heyward, Braves fleecing the Dbacks for their farm system, or the Tigers getting Zimmermann and Upton would be at the top. 

[wopphil]

Best free-agent signings

Zack Greinke (Diamondbacks): 14

David Price (Red Sox): 13

Howie Kendrick (Dodgers): 10

John Lackey (Cubs): 9

Ben Zobrist (Cubs): 8

Alex Gordon (Royals): 6

Yoenis Cespedes (Mets): 6

Justin Upton (Tigers): 5

I found this list interesting. I guess Heyward didn't make the list. Howie was a steal!

Funny, I think the Greinke signing was horrible, and will go down as one of the worst contracts in baseball history.

But the Lackey, Kendrick, Gordon and Upton contracts all appear good. As does Heyward's.

[Inside Pitch]

Yes. Those were short term one and done mistakes.

 

 

Don't look now but Hambone was pretty much one and done too....  LOL Arte.

[Angel Oracle]

Greinke is 32, and is under contract for 6 seasons @ $34 million/season.

That's a lot of money for a veteran pitcher not named Greg Maddux.

For how long will Greinke pitch to anything resembling that contract?

Edited February 17, 2016 by Angel Oracle

[Doug Van Oort Sr]

Every year the team that "wins" the offseason according to ESPN and other sites is one that dishes out at least one big long-term contract.  Very rarely do those work out and we've see how far "winning" the offseason got the Angels in recent years.  Winning the offseason is like getting a gold star in kindergarten.    

I'm ok with not winning the offseason, but it would of been nice to have participated in it.