Your 2016 HOF Vote

[mulwin444]

Griffey

Bagwell

Piazza

Bonds

Clemens

McGriff

Raines

[Docwaukee]

Griffey

Bagwell

Piazza

Raines

Hoffman

Trammell

Kent

Mcgriff 

Mussina 

Edgar

[Tank]

When does Vlad get on the ballot?

 

soon. i'm having lunch with the hall of fame tomorrow. i'll see what i can find out.

[happybat4]

Latest voting results. Right now Bagwell, Rained, Griffey and Piazza are getting in.

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[AngelsLakersFan]

If you had to turn in a ballot, who would you vote for? Any player that gets 75% of the vote would make the HOF. We did this back in 2014 and our results were nearly identical to the HOF vote. So post below who you would vote on your ballot. (10 players is the max allowed on a ballot). HOF will announce their official results Wednesday afternoon. I'll try to get the numbers by Tuesday night before their announcement.

 

Griffey

Bagwell

Piazza

Hoffman

Garrett Anderson

Brad Ausmus

Bonds

Luis Castillo

Clemens

Eckstein

Edmonds

Garciaparra

Glaus

Grudzielanek

Mike Hampton

Jason Kendall

Kent

Lowell

Edgar Martinez

McGriff

McGwire

Mussina

Raines

Schilling

Sheffield

Lee Smith

Sosa

Mike Sweeney

Trammell

Wagner

Larry Walker

Randy Winn

 

Hard to pick just 10. I'm more of a 'small Hall' guy but there is just a backlog of great players on the ballot due to the general incompetence of the BBWA. You could make a good case for at least 5 more guys.

 

Griffey

Piazza

Bonds

Clemens

Martinez

McGwire

Mussina

Raines

Schilling

Trammel

[Oz27]

Bonds, Clemens, Griffey, Piazza, Martinez, McGwire, Raines

 

I put those seven in without really needing to give it much thought. From there it gets a little more challenging though. Bagwell, Sosa, Trammell, Mussina, Hoffman and Schilling are probably all worthy, Larry Walker wouldn't be that far off either and I could understand why people would have Jim Edmonds in the discussion. Jeff Kent also has a case, while Billy Wagner's credentials are seriously underrated. The fact that it's Alan Trammell's last chance makes me think I would need to give him a vote. I'm also compelled by the fact that Sosa might not stay on the ballet, so I probably give him a vote too because I really think he deserves to be in. So that leaves me one and I guess I just pick the person I think is the best player from the remainder of that lot and I'm going to lean Bagwell.

 

So that gives me a final ballot of Bonds, Clemens, Griffey, Piazza, Martinez, McGwire, Raines, Trammell, Sosa, Bagwell.

 

And yes, I know leaving the likes of Mussina, Hoffman and Schilling is pretty messed up but it's so stacked at the moment that it's what I think it has come to.

[happybat4]

McGwire is overrated

[Oz27]

McGwire is overrated

62 career WAR, a career OPS+ of 163, eight straight seasons with an OPS above 1.000 (and two above 1.200) and 583 career HR.

 

So which part of that is overrated?

[Guest]

That's one hell of a group. These guys define baseball, in my opinion, since I grew up watching them....I miss those days.

Edited January 5, 2016 by failos

[happybat4]

62 career WAR, a career OPS+ of 163, eight straight seasons with an OPS above 1.000 (and two above 1.200) and 583 career HR.

So which part of that is overrated?

Don't get me wrong he had a hell of a career, but his average was low for his time, he played horrible defense, horrible base runner and struck out at a high rate. I would easily put Bagwell in front of him and possibly even McGriff.

[Oz27]

Don't get me wrong he had a hell of a career, but his average was low for his time, he played horrible defense, horrible base runner and struck out at a high rate. I would easily put Bagwell in front of him and possibly even McGriff.

Fred McGriff's best ever season by OPS would have been McGwire's equal ninth best. McGriff's dWAR for his career was -18.1 (compared to -12.8 for McGwire) and his batting average, if you put any value in that, was just 21 points higher for his career. McGwire is a universe ahead of McGriff, who was still a very good player however.

[Stradling]

If you had to turn in a ballot, who would you vote for? Any player that gets 75% of the vote would make the HOF. We did this back in 2014 and our results were nearly identical to the HOF vote. So post below who you would vote on your ballot. (10 players is the max allowed on a ballot). HOF will announce their official results Wednesday afternoon. I'll try to get the numbers by Tuesday night before their announcement.

Griffey

Bagwell

Piazza

Hoffman

Garrett Anderson

Brad Ausmus

Bonds

Luis Castillo

Clemens

Eckstein

Edmonds

Garciaparra

Glaus

Grudzielanek

Mike Hampton

Jason Kendall

Kent

Lowell

Edgar Martinez

McGriff

McGwire

Mussina

Raines

Schilling

Sheffield

Lee Smith

Sosa

Mike Sweeney

Trammell

Wagner

Larry Walker

Randy Winn

In no particular order:

Raines

Clemens

Piazza

Bonds

Bagwell

Griffey

Mussina

Hoffman

Trammell

Kent

[tomsred]

Griffey Jr.

Bagwell

Hoffman

Bonds

Clemens

Trammell

[Erstad Grit]

 

Griffey

Hoffman

McGriff

Raines

Lee Smith

Edited January 5, 2016 by Erstad Grit

[Stradling]

For you guys not picking Piazza, why not?

[Oz27]

For you guys not picking Piazza, why not?

Lee Smith over Piazza, for example, is pretty f'ing hard to fathom.

[maximus p]

Griffey

bagwell

bonds

Clemens

piazza

martinez

mcgwire

raines

sosa

trammell

[Erstad Grit]

For you guys not picking Piazza, why not?

 

He'll get in because of his offensive numbers at the catcher position. I wouldn't vote for him, at least not first go around. 77% stealing success rate is just crazy for a HOF catcher. Dude allowed 1400 stolen bases! 

[Stradling]

Dude was a catcher that had a career .308 batting average.

[Oz27]

.308/.377/.545 from a catcher. Seriously. What more do people want?

[mulwin444]

You're either a Hall of Famer or you're not. All this "shouldn't get in the first time" is silly.

Edited January 5, 2016 by mulwin444

[Erstad Grit]

He was an amazing hitting horrible catcher. 

[IIIII]

My old neighbor played with Piazza on the Dodgers, told me that Mike was was roided up to the gills. Never really cared for him since hahaha

Edited January 5, 2016 by IIIII

[happybat4]

Fred McGriff's best ever season by OPS would have been McGwire's equal ninth best. McGriff's dWAR for his career was -18.1 (compared to -12.8 for McGwire) and his batting average, if you put any value in that, was just 21 points higher for his career. McGwire is a universe ahead of McGriff, who was still a very good player however.

Your right McGwire was better than McGriff. His WAR was 10 better. That said there are a lot of better players than McGwire who did not make the HOF. McGwire was good, but he is border line HOF. Add in the steroids and he is out.

[Bobster7587]

I'm surprised by all the folks leaving off Hoffman. Am I missing something?