Hey MT

[nate]

John Oliver did a piece on the Bakken this week.  What do you think?  Warning: contains F bombs.

 

 

[gotbeer]

And here I thought this thread was going to be about this.

 

Montana Daycare Owner Attacked While Protecting Kids, Police Say

[mtangelsfan]

I will have to watch it at home.  Thanks for the link Nate.

 

oh, and Helena is 8 hours away.  Might as well be a different state.

[Adam]

Helena. Arggg

 

That is where the MT DOL and their attorney is. Bastards

Edited October 14, 2015 by Adam

[mtangelsfan]

Ok, couldn't resist and watched it.

 

I know people who work for some of those companies.  One of my best friends worked for Mitchell's.  

 

There are pluses and minuses to the oilfield.  Montana doesn't play ball at all with the oil companies and they have about 3% of the oil business even though they have about 20% of the bakken area covered.

 

Regardless, obviously the bigger oil companies have too much power over their subcontractors and that should change.  I do feel that piece totally glossed over the benefits of what has come to North Dakota.  Jobs, money, a superfund the state now has and way lower taxes for everyone.  There are people from every state out here working so it benefits those areas as well.

[TobiasFunke]

Would have been better if the video was John Oliver discussing Bakunin

[Crampknees]

I will have to watch it at home.  Thanks for the link Nate.

 

oh, and Helena is 8 hours away.  Might as well be a different state.

MT, where the hell do you live and is your town even mapped yet?

[mtangelsfan]

about 12 miles from the ND border and yes it is mapped.

[mtangelsfan]

But they are old maps.

[TobiasFunke]

Montana is still a territory on most maps in MT schools

[Spirit]

It's just a stones throw from Mordor. 

[Crampknees]

I pictured MT more with an axe in hand and part of the Night's Watch.  White walkers, wildlings, giants and any illegals won't get past his wall. 

[mtangelsfan]

Montana is still a territory on most maps in MT schools

 

You assume we have schools.

[juansavage1]

Those things don't matter.

Ok, couldn't resist and watched it.

I know people who work for some of those companies. One of my best friends worked for Mitchell's.

There are pluses and minuses to the oilfield. Montana doesn't play ball at all with the oil companies and they have about 3% of the oil business even though they have about 20% of the bakken area covered.

Regardless, obviously the bigger oil companies have too much power over their subcontractors and that should change. I do feel that piece totally glossed over the benefits of what has come to North Dakota. Jobs, money, a superfund the state now has and way lower taxes for everyone. There are people from every state out here working so it benefits those areas as well.

[gotbeer]

Now I picture MT in a town with one stop light.  That it constantly blinking red.  

[Kevin]

What's the name of the town MT?

[Tank]

Hooterville

[nate]

bum **** egypt

[nate]

Also, the piece was focused on worker safety.  You don't hurt business by employing enough people to inspect the operations to make sure they aren't deadly for he workers.

 

He started the piece off by explaining the benefit to the economy.

 

I don't get how the companies don't face criminal charges for not following the safety regulations when one of their employees dies because of the lack of compliance.

[mtangelsfan]

Oh no, I agree with you Nate. Here is the problem on safety with large companies as I see. OSHA is so focused on paperwork and the fines you can get for not having current or correct paperwork. So companies spend so much time working on their paperwork, and I mean tons of time and manpower that they don't actually spend much time on keeping their employees safe.

[nate]

I totally agree.

 

It isn't OSHA but because of Sarbanes Oxley my team of 20 probably spends almost a FTE every week on paperwork and compliance.

[arch stanton]

I've been a supervisor in a very dangerous environment for a long time. We give daily safety briefings and enforce safety practices. The idea of blame shifting is the kind of bs that a real government rep who wasn't bought and paid for by PAC money wouldn't stand for.

[AngelsLongBall]

Oh no, I agree with you Nate. Here is the problem on safety with large companies as I see. OSHA is so focused on paperwork and the fines you can get for not having current or correct paperwork. So companies spend so much time working on their paperwork, and I mean tons of time and manpower that they don't actually spend much time on keeping their employees safe.

It's not just large companies. We are about 50, and there are more checklists for paperwork than actual training. I could take a picture of a poop, label it training materials and have my guys sign off on it and that would meet their record keeping. It's lame and a waste of time