Arte Moreno and having a true leader as GM and scouting/development budget

[Angel Oracle]

This franchise will not establish ANY kind of consistency until:

1)  Arte Moreno hires a true director of operations like an Andrew Freidman, and then the domino effect kicks in (solid GM, solid manager and staff, solid farm director and development folks).

2)  Tied into #1, Arte Moreno stops having an embarrassingly low scouting and development budget (supposedly bottom 1/3 in MLB), and changes it to the top 1/3 in MLB.

 

And if Doc is truly describing why Moreno turned his back on Latin America (unscrupulous ways for teams procuring talent), someone needs to tell Moreno how many Latin American players are big contributors in MLB.

 

Time to put up, or shut up, Mr. Moreno!!!!!!!  

 

And about every FO employee wearing the same red Halos polo shirt...

What are we, a prep school?

Edited August 26, 2015 by Angel Oracle

[laagamer]

Who's this ****in' guy? 

[Homebrewer]

Welcome back.

 

Case in point..and I know I have posted some of this this in other threads recently....

The first thing that the Hoyer/Epstein regime did when they took over the Cubs (for another relatively new, billionaire owner)

was, even before they addressed anything with the big club, to pump millions of dollars and fresh people/facilities/attitude into the developmental system. The Cubs were at the very bottom in spending on their minor league systems for many years.

They changed that around, put major emphasis on scouting...and the results are already there.

 

The Angels have a much better core than the Cubs did when Theo took over, so the Angels can do it in a much shorter time with less pain of loosing seasons. But I totally agree that, a whole lot of FO change needs to take place in the Halo Headquarters...

The sooner the better for all concerned.   

[Angel Oracle]

+ infinity

 

Be a owner, Arte Moreno; and not pretend to claim you know a lot about baseball.    Because, YOU DON'T!

Hackilton, Mr. Pop-Up Wells, Ghost Pujols, Nibs, etc. all prove that you know diddly squat about baseball!  

Edited August 26, 2015 by Angel Oracle

[gotbeer]

What a disappointing first post back by AO.  Not enough fire brimstone and !!!!!!!!

Edited August 26, 2015 by gotbeer

[Angel Oracle]

Watch Arte "know nothing about baseball" Moreno sign Chris Davis for 6 years/$120 million, and of course see him only average 20 HRs a season because lefties usually can't hit HRs at even a normal pace in Angel Stadium.

 

Hey Mr. Know Nothing!     Only lefty hitters with solid OBPs should be acquired, to set the table for the righty power hitters.

Many more righties than lefties have had good power numbers in the revamped Angel Stadium from 1998 on.   

Edited August 27, 2015 by Angel Oracle

[QuinlansMinion]

What about that Yoncada guy we signed.  I thought we had some good foreign players ready to go.  

[Angel Oracle]

Baldoquin has been a big zero so far.    Whoever scouted him needs to go!

The Halos wasted TWO years of Latin American signings on him??????? 

Edited August 27, 2015 by Angel Oracle

[Stradling]

Welcome back.

Case in point..and I know I have posted some of this this in other threads recently....

The first thing that the Hoyer/Epstein regime did when they took over the Cubs (for another relatively new, billionaire owner)

was, even before they addressed anything with the big club, to pump millions of dollars and fresh people/facilities/attitude into the developmental system. The Cubs were at the very bottom in spending on their minor league systems for many years.

They changed that around, put major emphasis on scouting...and the results are already there.

The Angels have a much better core than the Cubs did when Theo took over, so the Angels can do it in a much shorter time with less pain of loosing seasons. But I totally agree that, a whole lot of FO change needs to take place in the Halo Headquarters...

The sooner the better for all concerned.

I would love that! But the Cubs had valuable tradable pieces that helped them rebuild faster. I'm sure if we moved Trout we could have the makings of a great farm system. I would love to have a great scouting and development, but it would still take years to accomplish.

[Guest]

Arte is a clear cut example of why owners shouldn't micromanage 

[ten ocho recon scout]

+ infinity

Be a owner, Arte Moreno; and not pretend to claim you know a lot about baseball. Because, YOU DON'T!

Hackilton, Mr. Pop-Up Wells, Ghost Pujols, Nibs, etc. all prove that you know diddly squat about baseball!

hes back!

[Troll Daddy]

Easy to say when you a beer in your hand ... did you just crawl back from under the table?

[Angel Oracle]

Are you enjoying one of your 29 other favorite teams winning tonight?

[eligrba]

Troll Daddy,

 

You're such a Richard Cranium.

[Angel Oracle]

And if Stoneman wasn't such a Stonehenge with regards to trading ANY prospects away...... 

maybe that Cabrera trade would have been made, which means Ghost Pujols wouldn't have to be signed.

 

Between Stoneman being afraid to trade any prospects, Reagins trading almost all of them away seemingly, and JeDi not knowing offense, we have had nothing but mediocre results in player development for the past 8 years! 

Edited August 27, 2015 by Angel Oracle

[Angel Oracle]

If I ever see Arte Moreno in person, I will let him know what I think of what he did to this once proud (2002-2009) franchise!

[Ohtaniland]

This franchise will not establish ANY kind of consistency until:

1) Arte Moreno hires a true director of operations like an Andrew Freidman, and then the domino effect kicks in (solid GM, solid manager and staff, solid farm director and development folks).

2) Tied into #1, Arte Moreno stops having an embarrassingly low scouting and development budget (supposedly bottom 1/3 in MLB), and changes it to the top 1/3 in MLB.

And if Doc is truly describing why Moreno turned his back on Latin America (unscrupulous ways for teams procuring talent), someone needs to tell Moreno how many Latin American players are big contributors in MLB.

Time to put up, or shut up, Mr. Moreno!!!!!!!

And about every FO employee wearing the same red Halos polo shirt...

What are we, a prep school?

I called for a President of Baseball Operations before they hired Dipoto. The GM position in Anaheim is a weak position with no control. After Reagins Arte needed a baseball exec that would've put Scioscia in his place the first week.

[Stradling]

Claude, if Sosh wasn't here would you still feel like they need an executive position above the GM?

[Troll Daddy]

I WAS JUST TEASING GUYS

[Ohtaniland]

Claude, if Sosh wasn't here would you still feel like they need an executive position above the GM?

Yes I feel they need structure that allows the baseball decisions to be made by the President of Baseball Operations / GM / Manager in that order.

Not Arte / Carpino / Albert / Scioscia / GM

[Stradling]

Ok, but if Sosh is gone, and Arte is still here, it doesn't matter if there is that titled position. The guy still answers to Arte.

[Ohtaniland]

Ok, but if Sosh is gone, and Arte is still here, it doesn't matter if there is that titled position. The guy still answers to Arte.

Yes but Arte should just set the budget and allow his baseball people make the personnel decisions. Stay out of the kitchen.

[Blarg]

It is his kitchen.

[Angel Oracle]

It is his kitchen.

You have got to be kidding me.

Name even ONE MLB owner in the past 50 years who knew even as much about baseball as the people below him?

[Stradling]

Regardless of what their titles are, if Arte chooses to interfere he will interfere, it's one of the many perks of owning something.