University of Southern California Football Thread

[Lou]

On 10/29/2018 at 7:32 PM, AngelsLongBall said:

The “rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic” award goes to Clay, OL coach canned, Tee Martin no longer calling plays

Wow. 

[nando714]

Usc is gonna go 7-5 and win the south lol horrible

[nando714]

Usc short list...

jeff Fisher

jdr

hue jackson

[Lou]

usc's season summed up in that final drive

[Lou]

On September 15, 2018 at 8:23 PM, nando714 said:

Death, taxes, and beating kal

usc football I guess

I agree 

[nando714]

Just now, Lou said:

I agree 

I was 15–16 the last time cal beat usc. I’m now 31. I’ll take it . 

Hue jackson will lead the way in 2019

[nando714]

4 minutes ago, Lou said:

usc's season summed up in that final drive

Ha! 

[nando714]

This is worst than 10-7 wazzu.

put me on suicide watch 

[Lou]

7 minutes ago, nando714 said:

I was 15–16 the last time cal beat usc. I’m now 31. I’ll take it . 

Hue jackson will lead the way in 2019

or Paul Hackett

[mtangelsfan]

Helton getting outcoached again.  Just another Saturday 

[Lou]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/sports/usc/la-sp-usc-helton-extension-20180206-story.html%3foutputType=amp

"We have lofty goals at USC and Clay can get us to those goals," athletic director Lynn Swann said in a statement. "He has shown that he can lead our team with integrity and stability and that he has the ability to win conference and national championships."

"I am happy with the job Clay has done so far."

That was 9 months ago. iirc, nando wasn't happy about it. 

[Lou]

Then again . . .

On 2/7/2018 at 4:53 PM, nando714 said:

Helton extended through 2023

USC signs 18 players and has a top 4 class. 

Rinse and repeat 

It was actually ALF that wasn't thrilled about it

[RallyMo]

7 hours ago, nando714 said:

I was 15–16 the last time cal beat usc. I’m now 31. I’ll take it . 

Hue jackson will lead the way in 2019

lol

Tosh Lupoi 2019!

[AngelsLongBall]

10 hours ago, Lou said:

Then again . . .

It was actually ALF that wasn't thrilled about it

I agree

[Vegas Halo Fan]

On 11/10/2018 at 11:19 PM, Lou said:

"We have lofty goals at USC and Clay can get us to those goals," athletic director Lynn Swann said in a statement. "He has shown that he can lead our team with integrity and stability and that he has the ability to win conference and national championships."

"I am happy with the job Clay has done so far."

That was 9 months ago. iirc, nando wasn't happy about it. 

I always have to wonder about ADs who prop up their choices by saying that a coach "has the ability to" do something that he has never done.

I have a feeling that Swann's opinion may be a little different today, if that ever was his opinion rather than just idle chatter to support a choice that most people disliked.

[Angel Oracle]

They had better beat UCLA, or else the refrain will likely be "No soup bowl for you!" 

[Lou]

https://sports.yahoo.com/10-questions-college-football-coaching-carousel-can-usc-afford-fire-clay-helton-015951439.html

10 questions on the college football coaching carousel: Can USC afford to fire Clay Helton?

1. What’s next at USC?

Lynn Swann’s sole meaningful move since his stunning selection as USC’s athletic director was extending coach Clay Helton through the 2023 season. It’s easy to pick on Swann because he was completely unqualified for the job, which his lone major football decision has shown. But it’s time to start pointing the finger all around USC, as he’s the second consecutive AD they’ve hired with no on-campus experience or any clue of how to run an athletic department. USC’s dysfunction spans to the administrative side, where a massive scandal cost the president his job this spring. But it’s also worth remembering that bringing in Swann was a vote for the status quo in the athletic department at a place that willingly hired Lane Kiffin and Steve Sarkisian, who were both too immature to handle the job. Not surprisingly, self-inflicted wounds ended up in back-to-back ugly departures.

Steve Lopes is a longtime USC administrator and current CFO, which means that Helton’s extension through 2023 and buyout – which is north of $15 million – has his fingerprints all over it. He certainly rode co-pilot on Pat Haden’s decision to promote Helton in 2015. But the contract extension that Swann gave earlier this year may end up akin to having a bonfire of cash on campus, as it would still be a galling amount of money if Helton is fired after 2019. With USC 5-5 and needing a win over UCLA or Notre Dame to make a bowl, that could come sooner.

(Remember, November optics are important and the Notre Dame game to finish the season could end up as a South Bend West playoff coronation for the Irish.)

There was no discernible market for Helton in February when USC extended him. And while he deserved more years and money after back-to-back strong seasons (21-6 combined in 2015 and ’16), USC treating him like a Chris Petersen or Nick Saban may lead to a strong case of buyer’s remorse.

The expectation remains that USC keeps Helton, and he overhauls the staff. But USC can afford to cut bait. Keeping him would mean the offseason and build-up to next season would serve as months of reminders about the history of incompetence in USC athletics repeating itself.

[Lou]

Personally, I think they should keep him. 

[Lou]

1 hour ago, Angel Oracle said:

They had better beat UCLA, or else the refrain will likely be "No soup bowl for you!" 

They will.

It's a lock. 

[AngelsLongBall]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

They will.

It's a lock. 

You know why, right?  Because that will then allow Swann to FURTHER extend him.  FML!  I can't believe I'm to the point that I may internally be OK with losing to ucla.  Because there's no way they are competitive against ND, right?  RIGHT?!

[Angel Oracle]

Two of my teams inexplicably extending the contract of their coach.     USC football and LB State basketball 

[Lou]

1 hour ago, AngelsLongBall said:

You know why, right?  Because that will then allow Swann to FURTHER extend him.  FML!  I can't believe I'm to the point that I may internally be OK with losing to ucla.  Because there's no way they are competitive against ND, right?  RIGHT?!

Haha. not to worry, you'll beat ND, too. 

bet the house 

 

[Lou]

LB Levi Jones kicked off team 

[AngelsLongBall]

Oh great. Now Mr Moth Catcher is swinging the pendulum to actually over disciplining. Someone please take his lightsaber away

[nando714]

Yesss!!!!!!

ball in your court Swann