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Good Times in Ukraine and Russia


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6 minutes ago, cals said:

Bad look.  For a country that’s really trying to play up the “free west vs. dictator oppressed Russia”, you’d think they’d realize not to pull shit like this, regardless of the reason.

Yes it’s stuff like this that has me doubt him. At some point we may need to put him in his place. Humility and honesty seems to be lacking with this guy.   Haven’t heard this discussed but I would respect him a lot more if he asked for money with a plan to reimburse. I have a feeling Ukraine is going to be destroyed and the American tax payer will pay to rebuild. Meanwhile this guy will emerge with a shit ton of cash and a mansion elsewhere. 

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2 minutes ago, Kotchman said:

Yes it’s stuff like this that has me doubt him. At some point we may need to put him in his place. Humility and honesty seems to be lacking with this guy.   Haven’t heard this discussed but I would respect him a lot more if he asked for money with a plan to reimburse. I have a feeling Ukraine is going to be destroyed and the American tax payer will pay to rebuild. Meanwhile this guy will emerge with a shit ton of cash and a mansion elsewhere. 

I have trust issues with him, too.  Can’t tell if it’s because he’s Eastern European or Jewish.  How about you?

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  • 3 weeks later...

We’re playing a dangerous game. I’m not completely opposed to war with Russia but let’s stop the half ass games. Make the case to the American people and declare war on Russia and potentially China. Russia and China aren’t going to stand by forever. At this point we have went well past the point of military aid and are actively at war with Russia. We wouldn’t tolerate this if roles were reversed and shouldn’t expect Russia to behave differently. It may be cyber, military , or another bio attack is likely. We need to hold our leaders accountable when it does.
The Ukrainian half pint is playing the world elites and stealing from the American tax payer. He’s become a bigger dictator than Putin with his own people. If we want to end the evil empire , we should do it for the American people and American interests. We’re throwing money to a socialist ass hat that doesn’t give a shit about freedom or  America. It may not be our kids but our grandkids will eventually face the consequences of our half ass approach. 

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24 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Maybe you should read up a little on Korea and Veitnam. 

Do you think our lack of resolve then is potentially how we got here? Postponing war isn’t always the best option. We’re essentially doubling down on a proven failed strategy. Let’s go full Japan or stay the hell out

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16 hours ago, wopphil said:

Give them everything. Tanks, planes, long range missiles. End Russia. 

Lol. We're not going to end Russia. This is just a game for crooked politicians and the MIC to get paid. It's nice that fools buy into this shit though.

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3 hours ago, Tank said:

we won the gulf war in 1991.

Or was the gulf war a prelude to a 20 year war on terror? In hindsight one can argue the gulf war was the first step in a larger global agenda in the Middle East. We didn’t finish the game but left the door open for future military engagements. With no defined endgame  in Ukraine we’re likely postponing and posturing for a much larger drawn out war that will line the pockets of global politicians.  Joe Biden and Lindsey Graham could give a damn about the Ukrainian people. They do care deeply about the global world order and the money it generates for politicians. Im all for eliminating the bad guys but motives and tactics matter. These politicians aren’t supporting this to secure the future freedoms of America and they’re playing the long game to deceive the American people. 

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8 minutes ago, Kotchman said:

Or was the gulf war a prelude to a 20 year war on terror? In hindsight one can argue the gulf war was the first step in a larger global agenda in the Middle East. We didn’t finish the game but left the door open for future military engagements. With no defined endgame  in Ukraine we’re likely postponing and posturing for a much larger drawn out war that will line the pockets of global politicians.  Joe Biden and Lindsey Graham could give a damn about the Ukrainian people. They do care deeply about the global world order and the money it generates for politicians. Im all for eliminating the bad guys but motives and tactics matter. These politicians aren’t supporting this to secure the future freedoms of America and they’re playing the long game to deceive the American people. 

I never said I disagreed with you when it comes to that.  Even not-libs can see it. 

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