The Official Los Angeles Angels 2023-2024 Hot Stove Offseason Thread

[Biergott]

6 hours ago, jsnpritchett said:

No, the present value counts for the next 10 years.  Once they start paying him the $68M/year in deferred money, it's just a real cash expense and doesn't count against the luxury tax (if there even is one at that point).

Man.  Maybe baseball needs a salary cap after all .  What’s the point in a luxury tax if you can skirt it and only get dinged for 65% of what you pay someone?

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

15 hours ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

Wow, the dodgers truly are going with a high risk/reward approach with their rotations. Currently there at 161 mil, wonder if they go after Yamamoto or bring back Kershaw 

Kershaw will be back in July... Almost guaranteed. Now with Ohtani there!

[Angels 1961]

9 hours ago, Biergott said:

Man.  Maybe baseball needs a salary cap after all .  What’s the point in a luxury tax if you can skirt it and only get dinged for 65% of what you pay someone?

Will not happen with players union

[Dtwncbad]

11 hours ago, Biergott said:

Man.  Maybe baseball needs a salary cap after all .  What’s the point in a luxury tax if you can skirt it and only get dinged for 65% of what you pay someone?

How are they “skirting” anything if they are actually charged the actual present value, just like every other contract in baseball?

Would you think it is fair to be presently charged MORE than the actual present value?

[bruin5]

11 hours ago, Biergott said:

Man.  Maybe baseball needs a salary cap after all .  What’s the point in a luxury tax if you can skirt it and only get dinged for 65% of what you pay someone?

MLB really needs to close the loophole. I think if you told the union that all the luxury tax penalty money would go evenly to all teams that didn’t incur the tax and only used for player salaries that they would be fine with that. 

[Chuck]

 

[jsnpritchett]

4 minutes ago, Chuck said:

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=lindsa003chr

[Erstad Grit]

46 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=lindsa003chr

Money to burn!

[Angel Oracle]

Surprised at the lack of major signings/trades over the past week in MLB since Ohtani’s decision?

[Ochocinco!]

Even with Ohtani this has been the most boring off-season I can remember 

[mmc]

16 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Surprised at the lack of major signings/trades over the past week in MLB since Ohtani’s decision?

Word is everyone is now waiting on Yamamoto’s

[mmc]

 

[Lazorko Saves]

2 hours ago, bruin5 said:

MLB really needs to close the loophole.

It's not really a loophole.  It's really the opposite of a loophole.

Discounting future money to present value is a hard fact of economics.

What might be arguable what the discount rate should be.  There's an argument to be made that 4.0-4.5% is too low, in which case, the Dodgers might actually be getting hit with a larger current AAV than they really should be.

[Lazorko Saves]

Is it time to change the thread title yet?

The Official Los Angeles Angels 2023-2024 Cold Stove Offseason Thread

[Angels 1961]

13 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

Only 25 imoney will reach 350 or more

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

17 hours ago, Erstad Grit said:

Almost every FA SP is going to regress. It's why a young Japanese guy will get 300 million. 

In before Somyungui

[Jay]

24 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

Give it up it's going to be Dodgers.

[Angels 1961]

50 minutes ago, Jay said:

Give it up it's going to be Dodgers.

No way Dodgers get Ohtani, Glasnow and Yamamoto

[Stradling]

24 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

No way Dodgers get Ohtani, Glasnow and Yamamoto

Of course they could. 

[Chuck]

2 hours ago, Lazorko Saves said:

Is it time to change the thread title yet?

The Official Los Angeles Angels 2023-2024 Cold Stove Offseason Thread

If we don’t make a significant signing or trade anytime soon we should change it. 

[Chuck]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Of course they could. 

I really hope Yamamoto goes to the Giants. 

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, Chuck said:

I really Yamamoto goes to the Giants. 

Yankees, Mets or Dodgers. 

[Angelsfan1984]

I could see giants land snell more so than Yamamoto 

[Angels 1961]

Yamamoto would put up big numbers in SF ballpark. They could land Snell and Yamamoto. Have some young pitchers to trade for hitters.

[Chuck]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/padres-prefer-to-stay-under-luxury-tax-in-2024-could-reduce-payroll-below-200mm.html?utm_source=twitter
 

Man I’d love to get Kim in a trade with the Padres.