O’Hoppe’s Defense

[BTH]

I’ll preface this by noting that defensive metrics aren’t perfect, but the defensive metrics HATE Logan O’Hoppe:

-8 DRS

-6.6 FRM

 

Statcast:

-6 Runs overall

-5 Framing Runs

-3 Caught Stealing Above Average

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/logan-o-hoppe-681351?stats=statcast-r-catching-mlb

 

Should we be concerned?

[Angels 1961]

4 minutes ago, BTH said:

I’ll preface this by noting that defensive metrics aren’t perfect, but the defensive metrics HATE Logan O’Hoppe:

-8 DRS

-6.6 FRM

 

Statcast:

-6 Runs overall

-5 Framing Runs

-3 Caught Stealing Above Average

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/logan-o-hoppe-681351?stats=statcast-r-catching-mlb

 

Should we be concerned?

No put him at 1B

[Inside Pitch]

9 minutes ago, BTH said:

I’ll preface this by noting that defensive metrics aren’t perfect, but the defensive metrics HATE Logan O’Hoppe:

-8 DRS

-6.6 FRM

 

Statcast:

-6 Runs overall

-5 Framing Runs

-3 Caught Stealing Above Average

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/logan-o-hoppe-681351?stats=statcast-r-catching-mlb

 

Should we be concerned?

Sample size is the biggest issue here and the issue with defensive metrics in general.  The smaller the sample the harder it is to take the data seriously.  This it true in both directions think Peter Bourjos if you need a example going the other way.

For now the eye test tells us enough.  He's made some clueless mental errors, he's a bit more active behind the plate than he should be.  Wish Jose Molina was still around to work with him. Check back on the numbers after 1500-2000 or so defensive innings and you can start worrying or not worrying.  

[Tank]

i'm gonna figure that a lot of his poor numbers are due to his refusal to take off his helmet on pop ups.

[arch stanton]

Man, we could maybe use a manager who was a strong defensive catcher on some championship teams in his playing career

[Blarg]

10 hours ago, arch stanton said:

Man, we could maybe use a manager who was a strong defensive catcher on some championship teams in his playing career

Scioscia is committed to retirement.

[Blarg]

Maybe Jeff Mathis would be available. 

[Angels 1961]

O'Hoppe will be fine and will bring many O Happy days in future.

[AngelsLakersFan]

The pitching has sucked this year, and most of these guys have not been calling their own pitches...

[EDinTUSTIN]

O'Hoppe has a strong and accurate arm from behind the plate and is pretty nimble. His defense was fine before his injury. Besides, with our scatter-arm pitchers, it is difficult to ascertain his pitch-framing and game-calling skills.

[arch stanton]

8 hours ago, Blarg said:

Scioscoa is committed to retirement.

Who?

[Taylor]

1 hour ago, arch stanton said:

Who?

Alex Ochoa

[AngelStew43]

Going to Mathis wouldn't be such a bad idea.  At least he knows how to manage a game.  

Nevin has made several errors in judgement that have cost the team games, like continuing to use Loup and Marte in games. 

[Blarg]

58 minutes ago, AngelStew43 said:

Going to Mathis wouldn't be such a bad idea.  At least he knows how to manage a game.  

Nevin has made several errors in judgement that have cost the team games, like continuing to use Loup and Marte in games. 

They are on the roster and in the bullpen, he had to use them at some point. Providing better talent would have made relief pitcher selection less of a game of Russian Roulette. 

[Duren, Duren]

Calling a game and being in sync with the pitcher are factors that can't be measured objectively. We can try and extrapolate, but have to rely on anecdotal statements. 

He still can improve in these and  the other areas with experience and training. 

[Tank]

8 hours ago, arch stanton said:

Who?

he's on first.

[Blarg]

17 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

Sample size is the biggest issue here and the issue with defensive metrics in general.  The smaller the sample the harder it is to take the data seriously.  This it true in both directions think Peter Bourjos if you need a example going the other way.

For now the eye test tells us enough.  He's made some clueless mental errors, he's a bit more active behind the plate than he should be.  Wish Jose Molina was still around to work with him. Check back on the numbers after 1500-2000 or so defensive innings and you can start worrying or not worrying.  

He was supposed to be paired up with Stassi and be an understudy. Instead he was paired with an under-understudy in Thaiss and had to sink or swim on his own as the primary until the shoulder blew up.

If the Angels were serious about moving his career forward they should have brought Suzuki in to mentor as he was healing from the shoulder surgery and given him more than two starts in the minors before putting him back into the lineup with a pitching staff that didn't know him or vice versa.

But this has become quite the clown show when it comes to preparing players for the tasks ahead.