Nolan Schanuel

[Angels 1961]

1 hour ago, Angel Oracle said:

Next task, a RHP starter

Chase Silseth, Canning plus

[AngelsFanSince86]

22 hours ago, jsnpritchett said:

He won't hit the roster days or at bat limits.  He has 95 ABs with 8 games left (including today's), so he can still get 34 AB without exhausting his eligibility.  Given his BB rate, it's highly unlikely he'll get 34 AB over the next 8 games, even if he plays every one of them.

Yeah I thought that if he reached 45 days on the roster that would trigger it, but I think I read it wrong. I believe it has to exceed 45 days. When I counted it recently, of he stays in the roster through the end of the season he'll be at exactly 45 days.

[Angel Oracle]

33 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Chase Silseth, Canning plus

Need a 3rd RHP, too many lefties in rotation hasn’t worked very often.

Then after 2024 when the starters will be ready for a 5 man rotation, trade Anderson and half of his last season’s salary.

[Angels 1961]

24 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Need a 3rd RHP, too many lefties in rotation hasn’t worked very often.

Then after 2024 when the starters will be ready for a 5 man rotation, trade Anderson and half of his last season’s salary.

All Star Michael Lorenzen cheap 1 year deal.

[jsnpritchett]

1 minute ago, Angels 1961 said:

All Star Michael Lorenzen cheap 1 year deal.

No.  9.23 ERA since his no-hitter.  54 baserunners in 26 1/3 innings.

[Angels 1961]

1 hour ago, jsnpritchett said:

No.  9.23 ERA since his no-hitter.  54 baserunners in 26 1/3 innings.

Good first half get him even cheaper now.

[jsnpritchett]

2 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Good first half get him even cheaper now.

Yeah, because he's not very good.  You can get plenty of crappy players for cheap.

[Angels 1961]

1 hour ago, jsnpritchett said:

Yeah, because he's not very good.  You can get plenty of crappy players for cheap.

He had great first half. Angels not going anywhere in 2024. Bring him in help young starters. Ohtani will be gone and maybe Trout I just hope they do not sign anyone more than 1 year.

[jsnpritchett]

1 minute ago, Angels 1961 said:

He had great first half. Angels not going anywhere in 2024. Bring him in help young starters. Ohtani will be gone and maybe Trout I just hope they do not sign anyone more than 1 year.

How's he going to help the young starters other than to say, "Don't pitch like I do"?

[Clark W Griswold]

2 hours ago, jsnpritchett said:

How's he going to help the young starters other than to say, "Don't pitch like I do"?

Yes and they already have 2 more years of Tyler Anderson to fill that role.

[Angels 1961]

2 hours ago, jsnpritchett said:

How's he going to help the young starters other than to say, "Don't pitch like I do"?

His numbers this year have been good. Rough patch in September. 

[Tank]

9 hours ago, Stradling said:

There are stats I dislike one is blown save, because it’s incomplete. A second is Total Bases as it doesn’t include walks. Maybe if they had a stat called TB+ that included walks it wouldn’t bother me but it feels incomplete. 

do errors, HBP, and fielders choice count in TB, or would they go into TB+? or not count at all?

[Tank]

6 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

Good first half get him even cheaper now.

lorenzen and trout can put us in a decent position to completely fall apart in the second half when the entire team plus all of the salt lake call ups inevitably go on the IL.

[Angels 1961]

5 hours ago, jsnpritchett said:

How's he going to help the young starters other than to say, "Don't pitch like I do"?

Lorenzen got save today, could he be a John Smoltz?

[jsnpritchett]

18 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Lorenzen got save today, could he be a John Smoltz?

No. John Smoltz was actually talented.

[Tank]

3 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

Lorenzen got save today, could he be a John Smoltz?

[Hubs]

On 9/24/2023 at 10:09 AM, AngelsFanSince86 said:

Yeah I thought that if he reached 45 days on the roster that would trigger it, but I think I read it wrong. I believe it has to exceed 45 days. When I counted it recently, of he stays in the roster through the end of the season he'll be at exactly 45 days.

It's more than 45 days, and yeah, they called him up with 45 days left. 

Also, I always thought it was plate appearances not AB's. But they must've changed it.

https://www.mlb.com/glossary/rules/rookie-eligibility#

Doesn't matter though, He wont win the rookie of the year unless he puts on some muscle and starts getting more power. And He wont be a Super Two in regards to arbitration as 45 days wont put him close to that. 

[jsnpritchett]

6 minutes ago, Hubs said:

It's more than 45 days, and yeah, they called him up with 45 days left. 

Also, I always thought it was plate appearances not AB's. But they must've changed it.

https://www.mlb.com/glossary/rules/rookie-eligibility#

Doesn't matter though, He wont win the rookie of the year unless he puts on some muscle and starts getting more power. And He wont be a Super Two in regards to arbitration as 45 days wont put him close to that. 

Nope.  It has always been 130 ABs, not PAs.  I've mentioned that in several threads.  Not a recent change.

[Blarg]

Just now, jsnpritchett said:

Nope.  It has always been 130 ABs, not PAs.  I've mentioned that in several threads.  Not a recent change.

With Schanuel's walk percentage he won't cross over until mid/late April. 

[Angelsfan1984]

punishing a player for getting on base...i'm sure this will be addressed in the next CBA. That's an idiotic rule.

[Blarg]

What is the actual punishment?

[jsnpritchett]

15 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

punishing a player for getting on base...i'm sure this will be addressed in the next CBA. That's an idiotic rule.

?  I don't think you understand how the rule works if you think it's a "punishment".  If anything, it BENEFITS players like Schanuel.  There's no way he would have won Rookie of the Year this year in only 40 or so games, so the rule protects his rookie eligibility and allows him to still be a candidate for ROY next season.  How is that bad for him?

And, as I noted, this is absolutely not a new rule.  It has always been this way, so, no, they're not going to address it in the next CBA.

[jsnpritchett]

15 minutes ago, Blarg said:

What is the actual punishment?

Exactly.  I think he's just confused.  It's a benefit to someone like Schanuel, not a punishment!

[Angelsfan1984]

10 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Exactly.  I think he's just confused.  It's a benefit to someone like Schanuel, not a punishment!

Ah you're right, i didn't read it as just rookie eligibility in terms of rewards. My brain  went into service time mode. In that sense, it would be a punishment, but in this case you're right its actually beneficial to the player. 

Carry on...nothing to see here.