Rallying Cry - Things Change Quickly

[Stradling]

26 minutes ago, Blarg said:

I love these posts from a guy that hasn't posted here since 2014 and starts lecturing to the rest of the uneducated peasants here of his greatness. Him and Swordsman have to be buddies. 

Yep. It’s silly. 

[fan_since79]

He lost me at "I'm an actual fan."

What are we, chopped liver?

 

[Angels 5150]

This is my first post. I will always be an Angels fan but damn! Angels have all but given up already. Half the team can't hit, and the other half can't pitch when it counts. Lackluster performances. It would not surprise me of Ohtani leaves. It will be really sad to see him go! Then it would not surprise me to see Mike Trout follow by requesting a trade. In the last 2 series, I've never seen so many batters chasing bad pitches out of the strike zone. Way to help out the other pitchers.

[AngelsFanSince86]

All I have to say is: Giants, Astros, Rangers, Rays, Reds, Mets, Phillies.

That is the schedule for August. With the exception of the Mets, every single one of those teams is better than the Angels. They will need to go something like 15-6 to get back in the wildcard race. The chance of that happening is essentially zero.

[Blarg]

But things can change really quickly. 

[jsnpritchett]

2 minutes ago, Blarg said:

But things can change really quickly. 

No, #thingschangequickly.

[SoCalDucksFan]

42 minutes ago, AngelsFanSince86 said:

All I have to say is: Giants, Astros, Rangers, Rays, Reds, Mets, Phillies.

That is the schedule for August. With the exception of the Mets, every single one of those teams is better than the Angels. They will need to go something like 15-6 to get back in the wildcard race. The chance of that happening is essentially zero.

On the other hand, the way the Angels have been playing, going 6-15 is not that unrealistic.

[Slegnaac]

If the Astros, Blue Jays, Yankees, Red Sox, and Mariners all have injuries to their

Left Fielder, 

Center Fielder

Third Baseman

Short Stop

Second Baseman

First Baseman 

Catcher 

then the Angels chances will greatly improve.

 

[Blarg]

36 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

No, #thingschangequickly.

I stand corrected since I'm a fan without any knowledge about this sort of thing. 

[Angels_pdx]

Everything seemed to change the moment that ball connected with Taylor Wards face. Nothing has been right since. Hard to get the magic back or so it seems. 

[Jason]

26 minutes ago, Angels_pdx said:

Everything seemed to change the moment that ball connected with Taylor Wards face. Nothing has been right since. Hard to get the magic back or so it seems. 

It's been a decade or so since there was any form of "magic" with this club. 

[fan_since79]

15 minutes ago, Jason said:

It's been a decade or so since there was any form of "magic" with this club. 

The last magical thing that happened to this club was Jeff Mathis' walk-off double in the 2009 ALCS. We still lost that series, but for one moment, magic.

[Chico]

Optimism is good. We need it now. The team, for various reasons can't put good pitching together with good hitting and good fielding consistently. Whether it's injuries, lack of depth I don't know...but to be optimistic can't hurt.

[LaPalma]

3 hours ago, Angels 5150 said:

This is my first post. I will always be an Angels fan but damn! Angels have all but given up already. Half the team can't hit, and the other half can't pitch when it counts. Lackluster performances. It would not surprise me of Ohtani leaves. It will be really sad to see him go! Then it would not surprise me to see Mike Trout follow by requesting a trade. In the last 2 series, I've never seen so many batters chasing bad pitches out of the strike zone. Way to help out the other pitchers.

Ohtani deserves better, frankly.  No one will take Trout.  3 WAR or less, 3 out of the last 4 years.  For 35.45MM? Lol……

[LaPalma]

2 hours ago, Slegnaac said:

If the Astros, Blue Jays, Yankees, Red Sox, and Mariners all have injuries to their

Left Fielder, 

Center Fielder

Third Baseman

Short Stop

Second Baseman

First Baseman 

Catcher 

then the Angels chances will greatly improve.

 

This is such a worn out excuse.  Houston and NY have both lost many players including their stars but managed to back fill and win.  Yet here we are trading what’s left of the farm for rentals in a lost season.  We never learn.

[Jason]

3 hours ago, Blarg said:

But things can change really quickly. 

Yep! I was feeling kind of lousy so I took a dump and now, just like that, I feel much better. 

[jsnpritchett]

8 minutes ago, LaPalma said:

This is such a worn out excuse.  Houston and NY have both lost many players including their stars but managed to back fill and win.  Yet here we are trading what’s left of the farm for rentals in a lost season.  We never learn.

Yeah, I've repeatedly made the same point, only to be met with cries of, "But we had MORE injuries!"  It's a losing battle, my friend.

[LaPalma]

2 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Yeah, I've repeatedly made the same point, only to be met with cries of, "But we had MORE injuries!"  It's a losing battle, my friend.

I like facts, not emotion when it comes to things like this.  So I looked and, according to Spotrac, there are FIVE teams with more cumulative injury $ this season.  In other words, take each injured player and sum up what they’ve been paid to sit there.

 The real problem is a barren farm.

[AngelsLakersFan]

11 hours ago, Stradling said:

Yes I’m serious. If the Angels thought they had zero chance, like you think they have zero chance, they probably would have traded him. Who knows the situation better, us fans, or the actual team?  Do I think he will resign, no not really, but the odds of him resigning are a helluva lot higher than zero. And yes loyalty is a thing, it certainly seems like you wouldn’t value it, but Shohei very well could. 

Unfortunately Strad, this is an extremely rose colored glasses view.

 The organization has done nothing to earn the benefit of the doubt. Most likely if you are in Arte and Perry’s shoes, this is the last chance you’re going to have to take a shot at the post season with Trout and Ohtani on the same team. Might as well go for it now when the alternative is to never go for it at all.

 The other thing, if I am advising Ohtani and he is telling me he wants to make his mark on the post season there is no way I would advise him to stay with the Angels. If familiarity is of greater importance than winning then he might stay, but if that was the case he’d never have left Japan in the first place.

[m0nkey]

3 hours ago, SoCalDucksFan said:

On the other hand, the way the Angels have been playing, going 6-15 is not that unrealistic.

6-14 and we have a shot

[Stradling]

9 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Unfortunately Strad, this is an extremely rose colored glasses view.

 The organization has done nothing to earn the benefit of the doubt. Most likely if you are in Arte and Perry’s shoes, this is the last chance you’re going to have to take a shot at the post season with Trout and Ohtani on the same team. Might as well go for it now when the alternative is to never go for it at all.

 The other thing, if I am advising Ohtani and he is telling me he wants to make his mark on the post season there is no way I would advise him to stay with the Angels. If familiarity is of greater importance than winning then he might stay, but if that was the case he’d never have left Japan in the first place.

Remember where I admitted I don’t think he’s re-signing?  

[AngelsLakersFan]

13 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Remember where I admitted I don’t think he’s re-signing?  

I don’t remember what I ate for breakfast.

Wait, did I eat breakfast?

[Stradling]

Just now, AngelsLakersFan said:

I don’t remember what I ate for breakfast.

Wait, did I eat breakfast?

It was in the post you quoted where you called it rose colored glasses. 

[Jay]

The one thing Ohtani could do to give the team a lift would be to announce he's signing an extension.

Somehow I don't think that's going to happen, though.

[fan_since79]

24 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

6-14 and we have a shot

Yes we do!

We went 21-3 right after that start. Talk about excitement.