Angels sign Phil Nevin to a one year deal

[Taylor]

2 hours ago, AngelsFaninGA said:

Understandable. Transition year while the team is in a sale process. 

Good thing the Angels play in California because transitions are frowned upon in other states.

[Inside Pitch]

5 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Good thing the Angels play in California because transitions are frowned upon in other states.

[UndertheHalo]

I’m glad the team listened to me.  It was my idea.  

[Chuck]

2 hours ago, Hubs said:

And Phil is 14 games under .500 entering today.

You try managing a team to success for a half a season that is mostly without their star player (Trout), their stud 3B (Rendon), and a broken and hurt Walsh & Ward, while Stassi provided negative value and Fletcher was out for most of Nevin's managerial tenure as well. 

[Hubs]

32 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Oh come on Hubs. I'm not a Nevin fan but Ohtani is going to base his decision on dollars first, team make-up second and about 9th will be an interim manager after post game spread.

You honestly don't think the manager he plays for has anything to do with where he plays? Seriously?

Dollars first. Comfort and Stability second. This reeks of instability, and that will cost us Ohtani. 

[UndertheHalo]

12 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Good thing the Angels play in California because transitions are frowned upon in other states.

[UndertheHalo]

I feel like Ohtani is probably pretty happy keeping Nevin around.  This is a plus for the angels vis a vis ohtani - most likely. 

[Chuck]

Ha, the reactions to both of these posts in this thread.

[Hubs]

2 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

You try managing a team to success for a half a season that is mostly without their star player (Trout), their stud 3B (Rendon), and a broken and hurt Walsh & Ward, while Stassi provided negative value and Fletcher was out for most of Nevin's managerial tenure as well. 

Maddon would've made the playoffs. Sorry, but Nevin did a terrible terrible job and was in way over his head. 

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, Hubs said:

Maddon would've made the playoffs. 

[jsnpritchett]

2 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Maddon would've made the playoffs. Sorry, but Nevin did a terrible terrible job and was in way over his head. 

Ok, I've been trying to be understanding of your stance in this thread, but now you've truly gone off the deep end.

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, Hubs said:

You honestly don't think the manager he plays for has anything to do with where he plays? Seriously?

Dollars first. Comfort and Stability second. This reeks of instability, and that will cost us Ohtani. 

And signing yet another manager will equal stability?  He’s had four managers in five years 

[Jay]

7 minutes ago, Hubs said:

You honestly don't think the manager he plays for has anything to do with where he plays? Seriously?

Dollars first. Comfort and Stability second. This reeks of instability, and that will cost us Ohtani. 

How many managers has Trout played for?

[Hubs]

Just now, jsnpritchett said:

Ok, I've been trying to be understanding of your stance in this thread, but now you've truly gone off the deep end.

Sorry you disagree. But I'm not off the deep end. Maddon managed the same group of players to a 27-28 record. Ohtani wasn't hitting and while Trout was there, he also missed some time. Ward had come down to earth. The pitching was worse.

The starting pitching was better under Nevin, but I'd argue that was experience and shaking off the rust for the young guys. 

[Stradling]

4 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Maddon would've made the playoffs. 

No fucking way. None. Zero. You are too smart to hold this bad of an opinion. 

[tdawg87]

I think Hubs might be "special".

[Stradling]

Just now, tdawg87 said:

I think Hubs might be "special".

He’s having a bad day. This is like when Chuck goes on a whiskey bender. 

[Hubs]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

And signing yet another manager will equal stability?  He’s had four managers in five years 

It will be 5 in 6 if he comes back in 24 with a new manager. And yet a new direction. 

It's likely that in midseason, there is a new owner, new gm, and that after the season they're looking for a new manager and a new DH. 

 

[UndertheHalo]

6 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Maddon would've made the playoffs. Sorry, but Nevin did a terrible terrible job and was in way over his head. 

@Hubs I’ve known you as person who is not insane.  I am sad that I need to reevaluate this understanding.  
 

very sad.  Much lunatic. 

[Hubs]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

No fucking way. None. Zero. You are too smart to hold this bad of an opinion. 

Well thank you, but yeah, I'm sorry, the firing was a bad decision. I firmly believe he would've turned things around in June, quicker than Nevin did. He had this team firing on all cylinders in April, and I haven't seen that under Nevin in 4 months. 

 

[Hubs]

3 minutes ago, Jay said:

How many managers has Trout played for?

One when he signed his mega deal.

[Stradling]

Just now, Hubs said:

Well thank you, but yeah, I'm sorry, the firing was a bad decision. I firmly believe he would've turned things around in June, quicker than Nevin did. He had this team firing on all cylinders in April, and I haven't seen that under Nevin in 4 months. 

 

He’s not a 13 game better manager in 106 games. No living manager is. That’s nonsense. Part of why you haven’t seen that with Nevin is Trout has played in 63 of 106 games with Nevin versus 51 of 56 with Maddon.  And Rendon played in 41 of 56 games with Maddon and 6 with Nevin. Oh and they traded their closer, left fielder and #4 starter. 

[tdawg87]

No bud, I'm not trolling. You are special.

[Blarg]

22 minutes ago, Hubs said:

You honestly don't think the manager he plays for has anything to do with where he plays? Seriously?

Dollars first. Comfort and Stability second. This reeks of instability, and that will cost us Ohtani. 

Seriously managers come and go and probably Nevin before the Angels negotiate any extended contract and several more throughout the league are getting fired. 

Go ahead and find me all the interviews of players saying they are looking for a specific manager to play for. Good luck with that, this isn't basketball where the star player picks the head coach. 

[Inside Pitch]

18 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Well thank you, but yeah, I'm sorry, the firing was a bad decision. I firmly believe he would've turned things around in June, quicker than Nevin did. He had this team firing on all cylinders in April, and I haven't seen that under Nevin in 4 months. 

"Pffft, had they just ignored the stats guys and checked out my mohawk, playoffs all the way" -- Joe Maddon after reading the Athletic article on Nevin.