Jose Quintana

[Tank]

1 hour ago, Angels 1961 said:

Quintana good for about 3 inn, good candidate for bullpen? 

smarter people than me need to evaluate whether being a starter is the best way to use him if he can't go at least 5 innings (and be reasonably effective). 

[Inside Pitch]

9 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Makes even Nibs look like Maddux.

26 BBs in 33 innings

Its ridiculous. 

Yeah the defense seems to constantly fall apart when he's on the mound but he's managed to generate outs on his own at a clip where even a bad walk rate would have been manageable.

K/9 13.39, HR/9 1.34, FIP 4.40, xFIP 3.90....   But the BB/9 6.95.

Dude is running a 4.40 FIP while walking 7 guys per game.

Its nutty.

 

[Inside Pitch]

9 minutes ago, Tank said:

smarter people than me need to evaluate whether being a starter is the best way to use him if he can't go at least 5 innings (and be reasonably effective). 

The amount of people he's walking makes him a negative in either capacity.   And as crazy high as his ERA is, an analytically leaning team in the hunt might actually see value in acquiring him if they believe the control issues are something they can fix.

At this point I just want him to stop walking ppl between now and 7/31.

[DMVol]

27 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

The amount of people he's walking makes him a negative in either capacity.   And as crazy high as his ERA is, an analytically leaning team in the hunt  might actually see value in acquiring him if they believe the control issues are something they can fix.

At this point I just want him to stop walking ppl between now and 7/31.

They would need to be sure there is nothing to the shoulder thing first.....

[eligrba]

37 minutes ago, Tank said:

smarter people than me need to evaluate whether being a starter is the best way to use him if he can't go at least 5 innings (and be reasonably effective). 

[eligrba]

31 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

At this point I just want him to stop walking ppl between now and 7/31.

He can walk as many people while on the IL as he wants providing that he stays on the IL.

[bruin5]

4 hours ago, failos said:

He’s a weirdo. He looked sharp in the first couple innings, but the second someone gets on base he becomes a complete head case

Kind of like Heaney…

[Inside Pitch]

55 minutes ago, DMVol said:

They would need to be sure there is nothing to the shoulder thing first.....

Obviously that's true.  I hope its one of those phantom injuries that teams claim when they can see a guy has his head up his ass.

54 minutes ago, eligrba said:

He can walk as many people while on the IL as he wants providing that he stays on the IL.

Meh, the only way to get any value if the team is indeed dead at the deadline would be to deal him.  So, I'm hoping they fix it if its fixable.  Even getting a middle RP would be of help moving forward.

[Second Base]

Sandoval, Suarez or Barria would all outperform Quintana at this point. 

[Angels 1961]

22 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

The amount of people he's walking makes him a negative in either capacity.   And as crazy high as his ERA is, an analytically leaning team in the hunt might actually see value in acquiring him if they believe the control issues are something they can fix.

At this point I just want him to stop walking ppl between now and 7/31.

His first 2 or 3 inns have been decent. Halos signed Quintana for 8 mill. The highest priced pitcher on Tampa 6.5 mill. Rays in WS last year and 35 and 20 now.

[Angels 1961]

20 hours ago, Second Base said:

Sandoval, Suarez or Barria would all outperform Quintana at this point. 

They should all be in rotation for rest of season.

[Erstad Grit]

On 5/30/2021 at 6:32 PM, Inside Pitch said:

Remember when you were told the end result might end up being the same but the two pitchers weren't anything similar.  That remains true even now.

You can keep bringing this up thinking you're right but you continue being soooooo wrong.

I'm not knowledgable enough to dissect nuances of pitchers. 

I am tired of this team needing two frontline SP, those pitchers being available, and this office choosing to go with 1 year deals on pitchers with potential upside. 

[Inside Pitch]

2 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

I'm not knowledgable enough to dissect nuances of pitchers. 

I am tired of this team needing two frontline SP, those pitchers being available, and this office choosing to go with 1 year deals on pitchers with potential upside. 

Well, I don't think you are alone in wanting to see them FINALLY add a top of the rotation arm.  I believe we can all understand your frustration there.