O'Dowd predicts Angels to get...

[floplag]

Moustakis and Hernandez at the winter meetings.    

[greginpsca]

He must have been reading Angelswin.com.

[totdprods]

I feel we can afford the risk of Moustakas with Ohtani now in the fold. Could you imagine if he actually did stick as a .275/.330/.470 guy? In this lineup?

[greginpsca]

2 minutes ago, totdprods said:

I feel we can afford the risk of Moustakas with Ohtani now in the fold. Could you imagine if he actually did stick as a .275/.330/.470 guy? In this lineup?

Without looking up the numbers, he seems to have always hit pretty good at the Big A.

 

[Chuck]

Who is O'Dowd?

Links guys, LINKS! 

Or embedded tweets.

[Stradling]

Have Arte go back to his good ol days, and make a take it or leave it offer of 4 years $60 million.  Give him two days to accept, if he doesn’t accept, then go and sign Frazier.  

[Chuck]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Have Arte go back to his good ol days, and make a take it or leave it offer of 4 years $60 million.  Give him two days to accept, if he doesn’t accept, then go and sign Frazier.  

I agree. If Moose doesn't take it, I'd be down with a Frazier/Valbuena platoon at 3B. The other plays 1B on days that Ohtani pitches and Pujols DH's. 

[Warfarin]

Hernandez is the top priority, IMO.  He's young and will be cost-controlled for the next 3 years, which corresponds nicely with Trout's timeline.  I go back and forth on Moose.  I can see the benefits he'd provide - LH power bat, not old for a FA, won't be in high demand and can be reasonably had, etc.

I think if we had to live with a combo of Valbuena/Pujols/Marte/Cron at DH/1B/3B, it wouldn't be the worst thing, as long as we allocated our dollars to upgrade 2B, SP, and maybe a lefty reliever.

[floplag]

Dan O'Down was on MLB network a little while ago, no links to give it was on the show when he was asked for a quick rundown of what to expect at the winter meetings. 

 

Edit, found a link to the tweet:

 

 

[Chuck]

Frazier and Trout are buddies too, both being from Jersey. Frazier shouldn't cost a lot. 

[Chuck]

Just now, floplag said:

Dan O'Down was on MLB network a little while ago, no links to give it was on the show when he was asked for a quick rundown of what to expect at the winter meetings. 

 

Edit, found a link to the tweet:

 

 

Thanks bud! 

[totdprods]

I'd be just as happy with Frazier as I would Moose. 

A lead-off hitting 2B still looms largest though.

[popo85]

Hope he is right 

[totdprods]

I'd be interested in a young player or blocked prospect like Ryan McMahon too, if we filled the other position well and fleshed out the bench and toyed with arms some more too. 

It wouldn't be the cleanest fit, but given Eppler's penchant for dealing with Avila, I wonder what Kinsler and Castellanos would cost. 

[Second Base]

2 minutes ago, totdprods said:

I'd be interested in a young player or blocked prospect like Ryan McMahon too, if we filled the other position well and fleshed out the bench and toyed with arms some more too. 

It wouldn't be the cleanest fit, but given Eppler's penchant for dealing with Avila, I wonder what Kinsler and Castellanos would cost. 

The Angels inquired on McMahon's availability at the trade deadline last season. I don't think the talks went anywhere.

[Angelsjunky]

That seems like the most likely course of action, but I wouldn't be surprised if Eppler gets creative and goes a completely different route. 

[Docwaukee]

4 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Frazier and Trout are buddies too, both being from Jersey. Frazier shouldn't cost a lot. 

Frazier is supposedly a great clubhouse guy.  Every interview I've ever heard with this guy makes me want to have a beer with him.  Even as a low avg guy, he's been a 2.5-3 WAR guy the last two years.  

Scott Boras is Moustakas agent.  I think the odds he accepts a club friendly deal are slim to none.  

[totdprods]

I think Frazier would be a great add - better than Moose in many ways. His power is pure, and he is surprisingly fast and good defensively. 

The biggest difference is Todd could be the righthanded version of Luis Valbuena awfully quick, at least offensively, whereas Moustakas could still be growing into a prime. 

I'd be thrilled with either one really. 

[Angelsjunky]

How much will Frazier cost in years and money? I'd rather have him for 2/$30M than Moustakas for 4/$70M or 5/$90M.

[totdprods]

3-year averages, per 162 games:

LV: .226/.318/.442/.760, OPS+ 107 - 24 doubles, 29 homers, 68 walks, 141 strikeouts

TF: .233/.317/.466/.783, OPS+ 110 - 30 doubles, 36 homers, 68 walks, 150 strikeouts 

[totdprods]

2 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

How much will Frazier cost in years and money? I'd rather have him for 2/$30M than Moustakas for 4/$70M or 5/$90M.

He probably gets 3 years, $12-15m annually, according to most projections. 

Affordable, but he'll be 32 next year and offensively has only been a hair above average, by OPS+ standards. He's well-rounded enough to not fall off a cliff, but it's not too unbelievable to think years 2-3 could get a little gruesome with his BA being so low. 

[floplag]

The problem i have with Frazier is that hes another righty.   Aside from that pending cost difference it wouldnt break my heart either

[Second Base]

27 minutes ago, totdprods said:

3-year averages, per 162 games:

LV: .226/.318/.442/.760, OPS+ 107 - 24 doubles, 29 homers, 68 walks, 141 strikeouts

TF: .233/.317/.466/.783, OPS+ 110 - 30 doubles, 36 homers, 68 walks, 150 strikeouts 

I think this just highlights how undervalued Valbuena is. It's a combination of him never having a featured role, never being a top prospect, being landed on a team friendly contract in free agency, getting injured early on and struggling without a true Spring Training.

In the end, I think Valbuena is going to be a very ideal platoon partner in 2018.

[laagamer]

Going to sound like a dumbass, but I've been gone too long. Hernandez who?

I'm %100 down for Moose though. 

[Troll Daddy]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Have Arte go back to his good ol days, and make a take it or leave it offer of 4 years $60 million.  Give him two days to accept, if he doesn’t accept, then go and sign Frazier.  

Do have any proof that ever happened