Gavin Newsom to propose universal health care for Californians

[fan_since79]

 

"It will only cost THIS much!"

 

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article138230498.html

 

[Taylor]

Universal healthcare was on the ballot for Colorado this year. It was going to impose a 10 percent state income tax on employees and employers. I can't imagine how much it could cost in California.

[red321]

At some point this will be the direction we end up nationally, would make sense to at least look at how it would be implemented in a state the size of California. You would certainly have a large risk pool and significant buying power to work with.

If you could offer businesses a fairly cost neutral way to roll employee healthcare costs and the management of those costs and benefits off their books I'm guessing you would get some interest.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if my employer tried to roll me onto anything the state of CA puts out I'd be looking for a new job or moving out of state.  

[Jason]

California is doing really well financially so I think this is a great idea

[mtangelsfan]

51 minutes ago, red321 said:

At some point this will be the direction we end up nationally, would make sense to at least look at how it would be implemented in a state the size of California. You would certainly have a large risk pool and significant buying power to work with.

If you could offer businesses a fairly cost neutral way to roll employee healthcare costs and the management of those costs and benefits off their books I'm guessing you would get some interest.

Middle-class bend over.  

[Adam]

I've been wanting to move in with my parents so this is great news!

[Tank]

Any health care plan in this state is going to have to account for all the illegals the dems in this state love to cater to. That alone is going to make this expensive beyond practical.

[Adam]

They're also throwing the idea of a State run retirement option. Sign me up!!

[Tank]

Wonderful news, Adam!

[wopphil]

Love it. I was planning to get to the office at 5:30 a.m. tomorrow, but I am going to bump that up to 5:00 a.m. I want to train myself for the extra hours I am going to have to start working to pay for the healthcare of all those who don't want to pay for it themselves.

[Blarg]

"It’s not necessarily something that can be adopted in all 58 counties, but it can be adopted .... where the majority of California’s population is.”

And what about the population in rural counties? Yeah, they get the deplorable treatment, marginalized and ignored because they are not a large enough voting block. Fuck this asshole.

[Blarg]

“I think it’s a tremendous mistake,” said Pipes, also a Thomas W. Smith fellow in health care policy. “Californians would face an even greater tax burden ... and when government controls the amount of money being spent on health care, the demand is even greater so you get longer waiting lists and rationed care.”

 

A voice of reason but because it is the California legislature will ignore it like the Bullet to the Head train issue.

[mtangelsfan]

8 hours ago, Blarg said:

"It’s not necessarily something that can be adopted in all 58 counties, but it can be adopted .... where the majority of California’s population is.”

And what about the population in rural counties? Yeah, they get the deplorable treatment, marginalized and ignored because they are not a large enough voting block. Fuck this asshole.

There you have the typical liberal ideology in a nutshell.

[fan_since79]

11 hours ago, Adam said:

They're also throwing the idea of a State run retirement option. Sign me up!!

...and a bill is being introduced to exempt public school teachers from paying state taxes for ten years. Really. Senate Bill 807.

The insanity knows no bounds.

 

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

What a bunch of negative Nellies.  Clearly the bullet train will help pay for all of this once it's up and running.  

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, fan_since79 said:

...and a bill is being inroduced to exempt public school teachers from paying state taxes for ten years. Really. Senate Bill 807.

The insanity knows no bounds.

 

That should help pay those pensions.  Fucking idiots.  @colt4405 any thoughts?  

[fan_since79]

Just now, Catwhoshatinthehat said:

What a bunch of negative Nellies.  Clearly the bullet train will help pay for all of this once it's up and running.  

I've always wanted to go to Madera. I love farms.

 

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

Why take a flight that's less than an hour when you can take a train that takes almost 3 hours?  The budget drain, I mean bullet train should have been built years ago.  

[Adam]

We need to create a monopoly on the use of force so we can finally implement an all encompassing plan for all of society.

[Angelsjunky]

Thrash and squirm all you want, folks, but as far as universal healthcare in the US goes, it isn't a matter of if but when and how. Progress can be a bitch, but it is the way of things. 

[Tank]

16 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Thrash and squirm all you want, folks, but as far as universal healthcare in the US goes, it isn't a matter of if but when and how. Progress can be a bitch, but it is the way of things. 

i agree. it's all about control.

[Tank]

3 hours ago, fan_since79 said:

I've always wanted to go to Madera. I love farms.

 

don't forget north haverbrook!

[Angelsjunky]

5 minutes ago, Tank said:

i agree. it's all about control.

That's a bit myopic, but if I squint just right and assume only bad intentions on the part of Newsom and other advocates of it, I can see it.

There's always a good news, bad news - everything casts a shadow. I don't think we'll be able to find a healthcare system that is perfect, but I think some variation of single-player/universal is better than anything else I can imagine...at least that is realistic.

[mtangelsfan]

I am obviously not a fan of any kind of single payer/universal healthcare.  However if it happens, then this is exactly how it should happen.  It should be each state that decides.  

Regardless the middle-class and rural areas will get screwed.  (which is a big reason we have the orange prez.)