California's $64 Billion Train to Nowhere delayed again

[Amazing Larry]

More good news...

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-bullet-train-subsidies-20160609-snap-story.html

[gotbeer]

Chances of the California taxpayers getting a fat bastard sized crap on their face?  Vegas won't take those odds, something about a sure thing.

[gotbeer]

State rail authority will seek a $35-million increase for key project in bullet train plan

It seems like yesterday, that no public funds will be used was the motto.  I guess for the bullet train people when asked whats a motto, their response is nothing, what's a motto with you?

[Angel Oracle]

If they changed it to being a train to Las Vegas, that might have some meaning to it.     I can see many more wanting that than a bullet train to the Bay Area.   Vegas is only a little over half of the distance of what it is to the Bay Area, and I-15 is crazily travelled by SoCal folks. 

[gotbeer]

Does Gov. Brown want to save the planet or his choo-choo?

Although, I hear Trump is in favor of the crazy train, so that may just take the vote and give it to either the big Johnson or the Giant Meteor.

 

Edited August 18, 2016 by gotbeer

[gotbeer]

Does Gov. Brown want to save the planet or his choo-choo?

[Slegnaac]

Hyper-loop should kill this project. 

[Don]

2 hours ago, gotbeer said:

Does Gov. Brown want to save the planet or his choo-choo?

It's pretty bad when the LA Times just bitch slaps a sitting Governor with a headline like that.

[CaliAngel]

On 8/9/2016 at 11:58 AM, gotbeer said:

State rail authority will seek a $35-million increase for key project in bullet train plan

It seems like yesterday, that no public funds will be used was the motto.  I guess for the bullet train people when asked whats a motto, their response is nothing, what's a motto with you?

Why anyone would believe anything the government says when they decide to be involved in multi-million or multi-billion dollar projects is beyond me.

They're not accountable to anyone, they don't have to open it on time, they don't have to stay on budget, and they can change their mind about funding or project details at any point in time, and what are the tax payers going to do about it?

Absolutely nothing except continue to be blasted in the ass with taxes.

TIme to kill the project now and cut your losses, California.

[Tank]

i'm still thoroughly convinced that the amount of lawsuits filed and the time necessary to deal with them is going to take so bloody long that this idiot train will never be built. the proposed pathway cuts right through some neighborhoods and schools, and people just aren't going to be okay with that.

we will never see this train come to life.

[gotbeer]

Bullet train route across Big Tujunga Wash meets growing opposition

[Tank]

6 hours ago, gotbeer said:

Bullet train route across Big Tujunga Wash meets growing opposition

"The journey from Bakersfield in the Central Valley to Burbank will require about 36 miles of underground passage, the most challenging tunneling project in the nation’s history."

 

[CaliAngel]

What the hell is going on here? Exactly who thinks this is a good idea? Politicians in California are insane. The tax dollars being burned on this are just endless.

What a freaking disaster. 

[Amazing Larry]

4 hours ago, CaliAngel said:

Exactly who thinks this is a good idea?

Unions and the politicians they pay off. 

[Spirit]

Shouldn't you guys be spending your money on desalination plants up and down the coast?

 

 

Edited September 26, 2016 by Geoff

[nate]

31 minutes ago, Geoff said:

Shouldn't you guys be spending your money on desalination plants up and down the coast?

 

 

They would run into the same opposition

[gotbeer]

1 hour ago, Geoff said:

Shouldn't you guys be spending your money on desalination plants up and down the coast?

 

 

 

The problem with desal is a weird one for California. 

First the electricity output.  We would need a lot of it, and we don't want nukes, or oil and coal burning facilities. 

Then the sludge.  The coastal commission is worried about the environment in the sea.

Ironically, they are ok with offshore drilling.

It won't matter anyways.  When California goes down, it will take the rest of the world with it.  It's just a matter of when.  Unless Giant Meteor beats us to it.

[nate]

Desal stinks, that is the biggest problem.  All the rich people that live along the coast are against it.

CA should have nuke power but they are pussies.

[AngelsLongBall]

13 hours ago, calscuf said:

I'm not defending it, but in Europe, massive tunnels are all over the place.

and they're filled with NAZI Gold trains

[Taylor]

14 hours ago, Tank said:

"The journey from Bakersfield in the Central Valley to Burbank will require about 36 miles of underground passage, the most challenging tunneling project in the nation’s history."

Smart move. You get to San Fran in 2 hours AND you don't have to look at Bakersfield.

[Angel Oracle]

Giant Meteor = best ever Billary Clinton comp.

Gov. Moonbeam = Harold T. Hill.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

20 minutes ago, nate said:

Desal stinks, that is the biggest problem.  All the rich people that live along the coast are against it.

CA should have nuke power but they are pussies.

There's been a push that started in 2005 to convert the plant in HB on PCH to a desalination plant.  Currently per the website the last update was about a month ago stating they were trying to streamline the permitting but I swear that was what they were saying over a year ago.    

I think it's easy for any of us to say that we should be using more nuclear power but when it comes to putting one in our own backyard people are generally against it.  After the Fukushima disaster there's even more hesitation when it comes to Nuclear plants near a coast line.  Of course they could find somewhere that's elevated but people still don't want to raise their family where a nuclear power plant makes up part of the skyline they see.

[Tank]

we have a great need for water, and short of destroying the environment, building desal plants should have taken place twenty years ago. it's idiotic not to do this, even though there's cost to get it started. we're smart enough (not talking to you, sacramento) to be able to figure out solutions to problems like smell and sludge. 

these should be built instead of that idiotic train that's going to be 25% filled.

[arch stanton]

I live maybe 3 miles from a massive desal plant and there's no smell detectable to me.

[gotbeer]

20 minutes ago, arch stanton said:

I live maybe 3 miles from a massive desal plant and there's no smell detectable to me.

A lot can happen in 3 miles.  Like Porter Ranch.