Obama rejects Keystone XL

[Angelsjunky]

You know what has a meaningful long-term contribution to our economy?

 

War

 

That depends. Compare World War 2 in which the entire country was mobilized around war to the post-911 war, which has left the US in deep debt.

 

Perhaps the best thing to boost the economy would be an alien invasion.

[gotbeer]

You know what has a meaningful long-term contribution to our economy?

 

War

 

Look at what WAR has done to the AW.com main board economy.  

 

Adam is right.

[Angelsjunky]

number has always been between 90-95%, but if that makes you feel better good for ya

 

According to this the number is actually closer to 97%.

 

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

[Angelsjunky]

Look at what WAR has done to the AW.com main board economy.  

 

Adam is right.

 

Clever. Touche.

[Jay]

What's wrong with a short-term contribution to the economy?

[Angelsjunky]

According to Juan Savage, climate change is a Marxist Tranny Conspiracy.

[Jay]

I lost some faith in NASA

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/07/charles-bolden-nasas-fore_n_637854.html

 

NASA Chief: Our 'Foremost Mission' Is To Improve Relations With Muslim World

[Adam]

That depends. Compare World War 2 in which the entire country was mobilized around war to the post-911 war, which has left the US in deep debt.

 

Perhaps the best thing to boost the economy would be an alien invasion.

 

Per Red circa 2012 or 2013 the debt is fake

[Angelsjunky]

What's wrong with a short-term contribution to the economy?

 

Nothing, unless it has a negative long-term impact.

 

I think part of the criticism of the pipeline is not only environmental impact, but the fact that the number of jobs it would supposedly create has been vastly overstated. One study I read said it would involve only 5-6,000 new jobs, which is a drop in the bucket.

 

Another thing is that it opens the door to further reliance on fossil fuels rather than focusing on developing alternate solutions, both through reduction in carbon imprint and developing green technologies.

[Jay]

Another thing is that it opens the door to further reliance on fossil fuels rather than focusing on developing alternate solutions, both through reduction in carbon imprint and developing green technologies.

 

slippery slope!

[Adam]

Nothing, unless it has a negative long-term impact.

 

I think part of the criticism of the pipeline is not only environmental impact, but the fact that the number of jobs it would supposedly create has been vastly overstated. One study I read said it would involve only 5-6,000 new jobs, which is a drop in the bucket.

 

Another thing is that it opens the door to further reliance on fossil fuels rather than focusing on developing alternate solutions, both through reduction in carbon imprint and developing green technologies.

 

There's too much power in oil for any American politicians to truly want to develop alternate solutions. 

[Angelsjunky]

I lost some faith in NASA

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/07/charles-bolden-nasas-fore_n_637854.html

 

NASA Chief: Our 'Foremost Mission' Is To Improve Relations With Muslim World

 

LOL. What's wrong with that?

[Angelsjunky]

There's too much power in oil for any American politicians to truly want to develop alternate solutions. 

 

I know, I share the same cynicism. What to do, then?

[Adam]

I know, I share the same cynicism. What to do, then?

 

I dunno. Have a beer and cheer for the Halos I guess.

[Jay]

I know, I share the same cynicism. What to do, then?

 

let's go ahead and destroy the economy in the hopes we can get the global atmospheric CO2 levels to tick down.

[Angelsjunky]

I dunno. Have a beer and cheer for the Halos I guess.

 

I hear you.

 

let's go ahead and destroy the economy in the hopes we can get the global atmospheric CO2 levels to tick down.

 

Who is destroying the economy?

 

Have you been watching Fox News again, Jay?

[red321]

Per Red circa 2012 or 2013 the debt is fake

 

fake crisis...if you are going to paraphrase to try and make a point, at least try and do it correctly

[Adam]

Dude, it's been a few years. 

 

Debt crisis

[red321]

which has a totally different meaning than saying the debt is fake

 

the debt is fake sounds like someone talking about pyramids, or denying climate change...crazy talk

[Adam]

which has a totally different meaning than saying the debt is fake

 

the debt is fake sounds like someone talking about pyramids, or denying climate change...crazy talk

 

I've got a good memory. I think YK ran with Fake Debt for a few weeks. My bad, homey. I love you. 

[red321]

I'm sure he did

[Spirit]

I guess the alternatives for transporting the fuel are better than a pipeline. 

 

 

 

 

[Jay]

Yeah but that's not CO2

[mtangelsfan]

Point is the trucks and trains are still going to run the north/south length of our country.

 

To say 5000 to 6000 jobs is a drop in the bucket is so elitist.  Sure will be nice for those 5 or 6 thousand people and their families.

[Jay]

Interesting I was listening to Obama's remarks on rejecting the pipeline.

 

Paraphrasing, he essentially said, "these are the reasons the State Department rejected the pipeline" and then gave as the #1 reason, "no meaningful long-term benefit to the economy."

 

Sounds like bullshit to me.