Gameday Thread: 5/21 @Toronto

[HeavenlyHalos]

Sucks to see him struggle so much after last year. 

[HeavenlyHalos]

Meh, Shoemaker's peripherals are still amazing. Everything's the same as last year except home runs.

If he just starts giving up fewer runs, he'll be a better pitcher.

 

lol

[Richard]

Think we're seeing why the Angels got Pestano for nothing.

 

edit: I now see that was shoemaker who gave up the hits.

Edited May 22, 2015 by Richard

[tdawg87]

Why the hell did Shoemaker even start the inning?

[Jason]

Just can't believe how inconsistent Shoemaker is

[fan_since79]

Why the hell did Shoemaker even start the inning?

 

Mike gave him a chance to work on some things.

[tdawg87]

Just can't believe how inconsistent Shoemaker is

 

He's been pretty consistent, actually.

 

Just not the consistent we want or need.

[Jason]

Meh, Shoemaker's peripherals are still amazing. Everything's the same as last year except home runs.

If he just starts giving up fewer runs, he'll be a better pitcher.

is this serious?

[Jason]

Pestano is good for mop up duty

[Troll Daddy]

This team has to many holes ... just sit back and relax watching your favorites play the game.

[Frieri Meatball]

Shoemaker gave up 14 hr last season and has given up 13 hr this year.

[Jason]

Shoemaker gave up 14 hr last season and has given up 13 hr this year.

AL hitters have made adjustments, he hasn't

[Guest]

Victor and Gubi are so boring. Their definition of commentary is just blabbing about where a player is from.

Something like this:

"Here's so and so.

(silence).

only 22 years of age.

(silence)

product from Kansas

(silence)

(silence)

[nando714]

Better K/9 than last year, same BB/9, WHIP slightly worse but still top 25. The only bad stat is home runs, which should go away.

Should but probably wont

[tdawg87]

Better K/9 than last year, same BB/9, WHIP slightly worse but still top 25. The only bad stat is home runs, which should go away.

 

It's not as though hitters are getting lucky though. His location this year has been horrendous. Everything. Every single pitch. Up in the zone. Up in the zone.

[CaliAngel]

Victor and Gubi are so boring. Their definition of commentary is just blabbing about where a player is from.

Something like this:

"Here's so and so.

(silence).

only 22 years of age.

(silence)

product from Kansas

(silence)

(silence)

The only reason anyone likes Victor is because he went to their stupid ass softball game.

[Jason]

The only reason anyone likes Victor is because he went to their stupid ass softball game.

I think Victor does a great job and I enjoy listening to him. Gubi on the other hand

[worldofx]

Vernon Wells approves of that homer.

[CanadianHalo]

Joyce must've been sitting on something outside of the strike zone...

[tdawg87]

The only reason anyone likes Victor is because he went to their stupid ass softball game.

 

From what I've heard of Victor, he's legitimately a damn good broadcaster. I have never met him and I probably never will.

 

Gubi is ok, but Hud was better. I don't get the hate for him but he's definitely not great.

[Inside Pitch]

AL hitters have made adjustments, he hasn't

 

It really just seems to be a case of his leaving the ball up.  He keeps missing up and they are hitting it.   Dude can't work there.

[nando714]

At least we split

Now let's make boston's pitching looking like the 2002 Oakland A's pitching staff

[bloodbrother]

After doing some number crunching, it appears that Shoemaker is on pace to give up 247 HR's this season

[HeavenlyHalos]

But since hit rate and walk rate are the same, it seems like it is just the occassional mistake instead of all his pitches sucking. He's just made 14 pitches that he didn't make last year.

Just stop making mistakes, not that hard.

 

It's not the occasional mistake though, he is leaving a ton of pitches up in the zone. His H/9 coming into today was .8 higher and his GB/FB ratio has jumped considerably in favor of fly balls, likely having some correlation to the fact that he is leaving a ton of pitches up. All you have to do is watch his starts to realize how frequently he is missing his location, usually high. And not the good, Doc Ellis on LSD high.

[HeavenlyHalos]

Haha, or maybe you just perceived that you were playing basketball but were actually in the middle of a forest jumping around throwing rocks at a bird's nest. There is a great Doc Ellis documentary currently on Netflix that I would recommend. He describes that event as not being able to actually see the batters, only blobs so he could tell if it was a lefty or righty, hence the lack of control. Doc Ellis was like the Rickey Henderson of pitchers as far as arrogance went, pretty entertaining.