Clinton to announce this weekend

[Spirit]

So, is she actually a shoe in this time for the Dem's main candidate? Is there another Obama-like person out there who could rise up and take it away from her again?

[Lou]

... that's she's a dude?

[Spirit]

... that's she's a dude?

They can't take that away from her.

[Spirit]

Maybe Elizabeth Warren? I don't see Bidden being much of a threat.

Is there even anyone else toying with a run?

[Amazing Larry]

Barf

 

[mtangelsfan]

Warren is the only one that might excite the lefties. 

[red321]

Right now I don't see another realistic candidate on the Democratic side of the house. Biden is really a non-factor and won't run now that Hillary is and O'Malley may run. The fact that most everyone reading this said..."who is O'Malley"...tells you all you need to know about his chances. He's the former governor of Maryland.

 

Apparently Lincoln Chaffee announced two weeks ago, but nobody actually noticed until yesterday.

 

Warren has said repeatedly she will not run. There is no reason for her to...the issues she is strongest on can be better served in the Senate, and for a much longer period of time.

 

It will be interesting to see how hard she runs in the primary season. She had every advantage 8 years ago and blew it in part because her campaign was awful and they took a fait accompli approach and by the time they figured out they were in a horse race it was too late.

 

 

Maybe a protest candidate comes out of the woodwork...but I don't see who that is right now. 

[Jason]

Like her announcement would be news?

[fan_since79]

Warren is the only one that might excite the lefties. 

 

"No, I'm not running and I'm not going to run."

 

Her followers have not gotten the message. There's a big ad campaign urging her to run.

Edited April 10, 2015 by fan_since79

[red321]

Warren is the only one that might excite the lefties. 

 

Not true...plenty of people in the Democratic party like Clinton...and might even be excited about her candidacy. I'm not sure..personally I don't have an issue with her and I think I'm not tired with her as much as tired of people's constant and irrational focus on her. It will be interesting to see if Clinton reaches out to the left wing of the party or tries to play as a moderate. Regardless, I think you'll have plenty of people screaming that she is "hippy punching". Not sure why Democrats have to have Sister Souljah moments...but it appears to be the case.

 

Down the road I would expect people like Kamala Harris, Sherrod Brown, and others to pick up the more liberal wing of the parties banner.

[mtangelsfan]

Not true...plenty of people in the Democratic party like Clinton...and might even be excited about her candidacy. I'm not sure..personally I don't have an issue with her and I think I'm not tired with her as much as tired of people's constant and irrational focus on her. It will be interesting to see if Clinton reaches out to the left wing of the party or tries to play as a moderate. Regardless, I think you'll have plenty of people screaming that she is "hippy punching". Not sure why Democrats have to have Sister Souljah moments...but it appears to be the case.

 

Down the road I would expect people like Kamala Harris, Sherrod Brown, and others to pick up the more liberal wing of the parties banner.

 

My answer was to Geoff's question about anyone other than Clinton.

 

I think the dislike of Clinton just has a lot to do with perceived "lines of royalty".  People are just tired of the name. 

 

Regardless, she should win the presidency because the elephants have nobody that is exciting whatsoever.  Then, things will still be the same, we will still be in military action we shouldn't be in, we will still be spying on our own people, we will still have a government that works in the shadows and we will continue to spend money like a sailor on leave.  Not that all of this wouldn't have happened with a republican president because it would.

[fan_since79]

Huma Abedin, Clinton's personal chief of staff, is a Muslim with alleged ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

 

No worries there, right?

[red321]

Huma Abedin, Clinton's personal chief of staff, is a Muslim with alleged ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

 

No worries there, right?

 

No, no worries...because you are actually reiterating debunked crap from Michelle Bachmann.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/michele-bachmanns-baseless-attack-on-huma-abedin/2012/07/19/gJQAFhkiwW_story.html

 

 

But nice try. 

[mtangelsfan]

LOL

 

As per usual, the opposition focuses on the stupidist stuff ever instead of what is important.

[Mark68]

Clinton is the reason many of us want to draft Warren to run.

[TobiasFunke]

Fan's post just reminded me how much fun we'll all have in here come the end of this year

[Lou]

i didn't see anyone deny that Abedin's father, mother and brother had ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

uh oh!

[Adam]

Which Dem gives me the best chance at paying less taxes?

[Vegas Halo Fan]

It will be interesting to see how hard she runs in the primary season. She had every advantage 8 years ago and blew it in part because her campaign was awful and they took a fait accompli approach and by the time they figured out they were in a horse race it was too late.

 

That is ironic, because that is pretty much how Bill wound up in the White House. Going into the 1992 election cycle, most Democrats figured that George Bush, Sr. was firmly entrenched and that 1996 was their real chance. Several had mentally conceded 1992 because of Bush's popularity in the wake of Iraq's invasion of Kuwait and Operation Desert Storm driving them out. Clinton emerged from the Democratic field, the public began to perceive Bush as being out of touch on domestic matters and the rest is history. Bush's campaign was based on the premise that his re-election was pretty much a certainty given the bounce from Kuwait, and by the time they knew that they were in trouble they had nothing to counter with.

Edited April 11, 2015 by Vegas Halo Fan

[Glen]

Fan's post just reminded me how much fun we'll all have in here come the end of this year

Get ready for the "Clinton death chain" emails to make tell rounds again.

[Spirit]

The thought of a Clinton v. Bush race to the White House makes me sad in pants. 

[Spirit]

personally I don't have an issue with her and I think I'm not tired with her as much as tired of people's constant and irrational focus on her. 

 

 

I kind of get this.  But don't you think the focus on her (or the irrational focus as you call it) comes primarily from the fact that there is no other viable Dem that's going to throw their hat in the ring?  There's really no one else to focus on.  

 

There's been an onslaught of focus on Cruz and Paul, as there should be.  But on the left, she's the only game in town.  And there's sooooo much backstory with her and her family to focus on.  Not saying that makes any of it right (or wrong), but with today's 24/7 whorish media, you know this is what every candidate is going to get. 

[Crampknees]

 

 

This is the only person I can think of to challenge Hillary.  He may be Irish but looks Muslim enough to win. 

[red321]

I kind of get this.  But don't you think the focus on her (or the irrational focus as you call it) comes primarily from the fact that there is no other viable Dem that's going to throw their hat in the ring?  There's really no one else to focus on.  

 

There's been an onslaught of focus on Cruz and Paul, as there should be.  But on the left, she's the only game in town.  And there's sooooo much backstory with her and her family to focus on.  Not saying that makes any of it right (or wrong), but with today's 24/7 whorish media, you know this is what every candidate is going to get. 

 

To some degree yes...but I think it's more than that Geoff. Think about the crazy crap you see re: Clinton. Hell, she hasn't announced yet and the secret Muslim brotherhood crap has been posted. But I'm not sure it's limited to just Clinton, you see the same nonsense about Obama. I think that's just the nature of the fw: fw: fw:, right wing news media world. All this "backstory"...we've seen it all before...it's been repeatedly shown, time and again, there is nothing there. We've seen the Vince Foster, we've seen Whitewater, we've seen the travel office, we've seen the secret lesbian...we've seen the Benghazi...the concussion..Bill isn't Chelsea's father (maybe it's Bill Ayres?), 

decorated xmas tree with cockrings, she's a witch, etc. etc. etc.

 

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/hillary-clinton-conspiracy-theories

 

So my quandry is this...I am so tired of that to the point where I kind of wish Clinton would go away...but that accomplishes their goal. I'm not really tired of her, but rather those flinging all the crap. And if it's not Clinton doesn't it just become the next Democratic candidate.

[JAHV76]

That she's moving to North Dakota to see if the rumors were true?