UC Irvine students ban the US flag

[DowningRules]

As if growing up to work for a major news network is somehow undesirable.

 

My statement made direct reference to MSNBC.  Not a "major news network."  The two are very different.  

[gotbeer]

Ban on American flag at UC Irvine reversed

I guess until the other council bans the unban of the ban.

[Glen]

Or couldn't they work to make the country better?

 

 

Get the **** out, commie!  

[Jay]

I want to make our country better. Let's start by banning the flag!

[RallyMo]

Yep, but give me one flag that you couldn't say that about? If you have an issue with America then more than likely you'd have a problem with every other country.

And?

Edited March 8, 2015 by RallyMo

[Glen]

And once again, it wasn't a ban on the United States flag, it was a ban on all flags.

[Blarg]

Hmmm, I wonder if the wording was to say all flags knowing they couldn't just ban the US flag. Yah think?

[Stradling]

And?

How bout living in a world with perspective? Not you but them.

[Glen]

Hmmm, I wonder if the wording was to say all flags knowing they couldn't just ban the US flag. Yah think?

Well, of course it was. It's still...wait for it...disingenuous to call it a ban on the American flag. No other flags were allowed.

[Glen]

For the record, I think it's stupid to be upset by a flag. I think it's equally stupid to be upset about people being upset about a flag.

[Stradling]

I'm not proud of my country. Am I not welcome here?

What country would you be proud to live in?

[Kevin]

Free speech is awesome. It gives the opportunity for a lot of morons on all sides to reveal their stupidity.

[Jason]

I'm not sure if this is a real post or not but I'll counter that by saying that the "flag" also gives the government the "right" to imprison any American for any reason for any amount of time without charge or trial. Just one of the many atrocities the "flag allows".

What did I put in my post that was wrong? I never said that we are perfect but I find it ironic what these students are doing. 

[Adam]

Guys it's a piece of cloth

[mtangelsfan]

Nehushtan!

[Stradling]

My point to Vladdy was and this isn't a bash on you Vladdy, if you aren't proud of your country, what country would you be proud to be a part of? If the answer is no where then I think the problem is more your perception versus the reality of our country.

[Jason]

I can see that. I guess I was disturbed by your assertion that certain types of free speech are "stupid". What do you mean by that?

Also, free speech isn't rare throughout the world. It's not like being able to speak your mind is a uniquely American trait. Not even close.

Some uses of free speech.

[mtangelsfan]

There are plenty of times that the free speech is stupid.  That doesn't mean it isn't free.

[arch stanton]

That's deep, man.

[Jason]

There are plenty of times that the free speech is stupid. That doesn't mean it isn't free.

Very true

[Amazing Larry]

I never understood pledging allegiance to a flag. It just seems like surrendering self think.

I feel the same way about the Star-Spangled Banner.

[Amazing Larry]

To me the pledge is kind of creepy. Lining up kids to pledge their allegiance (another word for obedience) to a country no matter what has never seemed right to me.

Agreed. I remain silent at the beginning of Angels games when the Star-Spangled Banner is played. It's no disrespect to our veterans (that includes Arte Moreno) or the founding fathers. I just don't believe in reciting irrelevant wartime poems in order to feel part of the herd.

I especially don't like reciting those words when I disagree with what our country is doing militarily right now.

Edited March 9, 2015 by Lawrence

[Adam]

I just live here man

[Amazing Larry]

But are you really living?

(turns to page 2 in Jean Paul Sartre textbook)

[Ludwig Von Mises]

Guys it's a piece of cloth

Yes. That reminds me of a George Carlin-ism:

"I consider them symbols, and I leave symbols to the symbol(simple)-minded."