Parents call police to assist with mentally ill son....

[HaloFan85]

....and police assist by shooting their 18 year old son dead.

 

"During Sunday’s incident, Vidal had apparently picked up a small screwdriver — small enough that it couldn’t have caused serious harm, his family says, but enough that they sought law enforcement assistance. Three different police departments’ officers arrived at the scene. The first two were able to restrain Vidal and calm him down, according to Vidal’s father. But then a third entered, and that’s when he says things went sour."

 

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/01/07/3126391/north-carolina-police-shoot-schizophrenic-teen/

 

[Adam]

Bulletin Board material for the LBPD

[CaliAngel]

Law Enforcement needs to stop thinking they have a right to shoot dead anyone who might be a threat to them.

 

They signed up to put themselves in the line of danger, they should be more prepared to deal with the situations in non-lethal ways. 

[1nutkruk]

[Blarg]

“This is what’s wrong with our mental health system,” Vidal’s mother, who was reportedly treated at the scene for an emotional breakdown, told reporters.

 

By treating did that include a taser and a gunshot wound?

[HaloMagic]

He says the third officer tased Vidal, knocking the 90-pound teenager to the ground. The officer then allegedly stepped forward with a firearm and said, “we don’t have time for this,” before shooting the teen dead.

This can't be right.

[mtangelsfan]

Very, very sad.

[Jason]

The cops new that he wasn't going to get his meds under Obamacare and would just be a problem in the future. 

[Jason]

This article has to be a fragment of what really happened. I have a good understanding of use of force policies and what is allowed. If he was initially restrained then why was he tased? Why not pepper spray? Cops are taught to use force options as every situation is different. I'd like to hear why the one who shot chose to do so.

[HaloMagic]

I'd like to hear why the one who shot chose to do so.

Because he knew they didn't have time for that.

[TobiasFunke]

Here's what I'm thinking. Let's say the guy came after the cops and one of the cops seeing that the screwdriver really couldn't do anything so he pulls some badass move that drops the kid resulting in no shooting, no one getting shanked by a  screwdriver, and the kid arrested. Do lawyers and judges now use that against cops saying that because these cops took matters into their own hands by not shooting someone coming after them with a "weapon" then other cops should as well and lawsuits galore happen now?

[tdawg87]

Why was he carrying a screwdriver anyway? He obviously had a few bolts loose.

Edited January 8, 2014 by tdawg87

[yk9001]

I'm confident we'll solve whatever happened in that house here, collectively, from our message board.

[HaloMagic]

The AW detectives are already on the case, no doubt. And I hear that Nazi skinheads are the early frontrunner.

[Stradling]

How many shots were fired?

[mrwicked]

man that sucks.

[mtangelsfan]

How many shots were fired?

 

AW mods, staying classy since never.   Way to take a story about an 18 year old being killed as an opportunity to take a dig at a guy who isn't even around to defend himself.

 

Are you ever going to give it up?

[Blarg]

Before we get ahead of ourselves and jump to conclusions, you have to ask if it was a Phillips or Common head screwdriver. It makes a difference.

[Jason]

I'm confident we'll solve whatever happened in that house here, collectively, from our message board.

We usually do.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

“This is what’s wrong with our mental health system,” Vidal’s mother, who was reportedly treated at the scene for an emotional breakdown, told reporters.

 

By treating did that include a taser and a gunshot wound?

 

Tasers and bullets can have a very calming effect. Much faster acting and longer lasting than conventional medication therapy.

[mp170.6]

Anybody following the Kelly Thomas trial?  He was homeless and mentally ill.

 

Two former Fullerton PD officers on trial, one for 2nd Degree Murder/Involuntary Manslaughter, the other for Involuntary Manslaughter and Abuse of Authority.  Closing arguments today and tomorrow.  The jury should have it by this time tomorrow. 

 

You can watch the whole incident here.  The threats and beating begin at 15:06.

 

 

Edited January 8, 2014 by mp170.6

[Vernster52]

Before we get ahead of ourselves and jump to conclusions, you have to ask if it was a Phillips or Common head screwdriver. It makes a difference.

More importantly, is it referred to as a Common head or a Flat head?

[Blarg]

Don't be a racist.

[HaloMagic]

Yeah, that was wildly inappropriate.

[HaloFan85]

The details coming out are just getting worse and worse.  If all this is proven to be true, there seriously needs to be a precedent set with this case.  They'll need to convict this guy of outright murder.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535424/Fury-schizophrenic-teen-Keith-Vidal-shot-dead-Southport-Police.html