Baseball Tiers as of 4-22-24

[Swordsman78]

Baseball Tiers as of 4-22-24

 

Tier 1       Brewers, Braves, Yankees, Cleveland, Phillies                                (19.5-21.75 points)

Tier 2       Cubs, Orioles, Mets, Red Sox, Blue Jays, Padres, Dodgers                            (16-18.75 points)

 Tier 3      Pirates*, Reds, Rays, Royals, Tigers, Rangers, Seattle, Dbacks                     (13.75-1.5.5 points)

Tier 4       A's*, Cards*, Giants, Nats                                                                                    (10.0-13.25)

Tier 5      Angels*,  Astros*, Twins*                                                                                    (7.5-9.0 points)

Tier 6      White Sox, Rockies, Marlins,                                                                             (2.5-6 points)

 

Note:  The Tiers are crowd sourced.  All input will be considered and adjustments made as appropriate.

The Tiers represent a snap shot for a time period and will be fluid due to relevant injuries and     future level of play.

Tier 1 and 2 = Current Playoff Caliber

Tier 3 = On the Bubble for playoffs

Tier 4 = .500 team +/- 3-5 wins

Tier 5 = Trending down with tempo

Tier 6 =  Dungeon.  Hopeless

*       = on probation/bubble down for their current Tier.

Below is an explanation of the Methodolgy used to place the teams on various Tiers.  The Tier concept recognizes that W/L records are a function of quality of opponent, and as such, RELEVANCY of opponent MUST be factored in. 

The following data points are the primary drivers:  # of wins,   # series won, current series win streak. Quality series win over Tier 1, +7/-7 last 10 games (+.5/-.5)

Fractional Deductions for Series win vs. Tier 6,

*Tier placements consider a team’s entire body of work, however are weighted heaviest on recent games and game weights decrease in significance in reverse order.

Edited April 26 by Swordsman78

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

Angels should be in tier 6.  Let’s get real.

[Dtwncbad]

Blarg doesn’t like the word tier.  Beware when he finds this thread.

[Slegnaac]

Nice, four fifths of the AL West is tier 5.

[Duren, Duren]

Interesting metric format. But still too early to call these more than a very early sample size of 1/8th of the season. A couple of good or bad series can distort a team's status as much as show an established performance level. Early in a season team's often experiment, trying to find the best everyday lineup and rotation. 

I'd do these maybe quarterly, after each forty games. By then teams have played more evenly road/home and against a wider spectrum of teams. The first twenty are somewhat indicative, but not enough to think things can't change over a longer time frame. 

[Slegnaac]

Royals are better than tier 4 right now.

13 - 9 record

+38 run differential 

Currently would be a WC.

Your crowd source is suspect.

[Dtwncbad]

We are in the tears tier.

[Swordsman78]

54 minutes ago, Slegnaac said:

Royals are better than tier 4 right now.

13 - 9 record

+38 run differential 

Currently would be a WC.

Your crowd source is suspect.

Good input.  Royals moved to Tier 3.   I had them at 12 wins until you pointed out they had 13.  This moved them to 14.5 points and into Tier 3.  Thanks for the crowed sourcing.

 Here is the thought process on the Royals.   Basically they feasted on the White Sox and lost a series to Tier 5/6 Twins

13- 13 points

3 series wins - +3 points

2 series wins were vs. Tier 6 (White sox x 2) for 6-1 record = (-.5 points x 2)

Lost a series vs Tier 5/6 Twins.= (-.5 points)

Without the benefit of playing 2 series vs. White Sox their record  would be 6-8

 

Edited April 22 by Swordsman78

[Swordsman78]

2 hours ago, The Ghost of Bob Starr said:

Angels should be in tier 6.  Let’s get real.

Angels are on probation ** in Tier 5.   A sweep by Baltimore would surely drop them to Tier 6, but a series win over the O's would take them off probation for Tier 5

[Swordsman78]

52 minutes ago, Duren, Duren said:

Interesting metric format. But still too early to call these more than a very early sample size of 1/8th of the season. A couple of good or bad series can distort a team's status as much as show an established performance level. Early in a season team's often experiment, trying to find the best everyday lineup and rotation. 

I'd do these maybe quarterly, after each forty games. By then teams have played more evenly road/home and against a wider spectrum of teams. The first twenty are somewhat indicative, but not enough to think things can't change over a longer time frame. 

You are correct, this is early but establishes a starting point for discussion and crowd sourcing.   I plan to officially update again at approx 60 games, but team Tier placement will be fluid through the next 40 games.

[Angelsjunky]

Tiers are gay.

[Swordsman78]

3 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Tiers are content 

FIFY.

Get in the game or stand by the side and let the victors go by.

[greginpsca]

You forgot Tier Shit.

[Angelsjunky]

Seattle is 7-3 in their last 10...maybe they deserve tier 4.

[Swordsman78]

1 minute ago, Angelsjunky said:

Seattle is 7-3 in their last 10...maybe they deserve tier 4.

Good input.   I will review and share the thought process and get back to you.  That 7-3 shows they are definitely trending up.   You may be spot on. 

[Stradling]

This could be the dumbest thing we’ve seen on here in quite some time and we have Halo Red’s thread discussing the possibility of trading Detmers. 

[Swordsman78]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

This could be the dumbest thing we’ve seen on here in quite some time and we have Halo Red’s thread discussing the possibility of trading Detmers. 

Just because you don't understand something doesn't diminish its merit.

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

@Swordsman78you must be bored.  Were you a strat o matic guy decades ago.  This is over analysis and useless at that.  
 

sit back and enjoy the season. 

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

2 minutes ago, Swordsman78 said:

Just because you don't understand something doesn't diminish its merit.

There is no merit in this. The games are played in the field. 22 games is a small sample size and any team can win 10 in a row (except the angels or white Sox) and it still won’t mean anything in the grand scheme if things.  
 

this is like going on a first date and you thinking about what college your kids you don’t even have will attend. 

[Angelsfan1984]

Yes because Cleveland is one of the best teams in the league? This is some high octane dumbassery. 

[Stradling]

6 minutes ago, Swordsman78 said:

Just because you don't understand something doesn't diminish its merit.

Yea I can’t understand this moronic tier system that some troll created. 

[thebloob]

Given your made up math I think any angel victory should be worth 5 points, making them tier one because we are fans here.  That should count. 

[Swordsman78]

2 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

Seattle is 7-3 in their last 10...maybe they deserve tier 4.

Good Call.  I added a metric/data point for +7/-7 wins in last 10.    Seattle moved to Tier 3.

Thanks for your input as performance in last 10 games should be a factor.

[Swordsman78]

2 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

Seattle is 7-3 in their last 10...maybe they deserve tier 4.

Good Call.  I added a metric/data point for +7/-7 wins in last 10.    Seattle moved to Tier 3.

Thanks for your input as performance in last 10 games should be a factor.

[Swordsman78]

1 hour ago, thebloob said:

Given your made up math I think any angel victory should be worth 5 points, making them tier one because we are fans here.  That should count. 

That would be up to Chuckster.