The Angels and Cody Bellinger

[Hubs]

21 hours ago, HBAngel13 said:

I would be much more interested to see what Jo Adell is capable of over a full season for the MLB minimum than making a $200m commitment to Bellinger.  .240 and 25HR from Adell seems like a possibility with a full season of ABs

Im in the camp that we aren’t competing in 2024 save for an unprecedented streak of good health, career years and home run FA signings. As such, let Adell, Moniak and Ward play it out. See what you have and look to improve the OF in 2025 if the need still exists.  All those guys have the potential to be average to above average regulars. Give them a chance… there is nothing to lose at this point. 

Jo currently would be the starting DH, with Moniak and Ward being better defenders. Signing Bellinger frees up one for a trade.

 

Edited December 21, 2023 by Hubs

[Angels 1961]

9 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Yes, but your plan and comparing it to the $200 million that Belinger is getting paid ignores the year to year budget.  You can’t simply say, “take the $200 million you were going to give to Belinger and spend $200 million on these guys who will have 3 year deals”.  One costs you $20-25 million annually, while the other is $65-70 million a year.  

Yes but many on 1 year deals and not more than 3. Give flexibility for coming years. Depth is what this team needs now to even have a chance to compete. 

[AngelsFaninGA]

Angels signing Bellinger would be like the Rockies signing Ian Desmond. Just a dumb unserious team trying to spend money on anyone that will talk to them in the hopes of pretending to their fans that they're trying to win.

Like ok, we can sign no one and win 65 games or we can sign Bellinger and Snell and win 71 games but the optics will be slightly better to the most casual tier of fans who don't pay attention to wins and losses. Classic Arte move. 

[BTH]

1 minute ago, AngelsFaninGA said:

Angels signing Bellinger would be like the Rockies signing Ian Desmond. Just a dumb unserious team trying to spend money on anyone that will talk to them in the hopes of pretending to their fans that they're trying to win.

Like ok, we can sign no one and win 65 games or we can sign Bellinger and Snell and win 71 games but the optics will be slightly better to the most casual tier of fans who don't pay attention to wins and losses. Classic Arte move. 

If you think the angels are going to win 65 games next year, you are being dumb and unserious.

[BTH]

24 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Jo currently would be the starting DH, with Moniak and Ward being better defenders. Signing Berlinger frees up one for a trade.

 

I think the team would be best off adding a starting outfielder AND a DH. Moniak and Adell on the bench.

Moniak’s gonna regress. Adell is still a question mark.

[AngelsFaninGA]

4 minutes ago, BTH said:

If you think the angels are going to win 65 games next year, you are being dumb and unserious.

Too optimistic?

[Angels 1961]

1 minute ago, BTH said:

I think the team would be best off adding a starting outfielder AND a DH. Moniak and Adell on the bench.

Moniak’s gonna regress. Adell is still a question mark.

Trout will get hurt not sure about Ward with his injury. Rengifo, Calhoun and Marisnick will be OF early June. Maybe Perry can bring back Kole Calhoun. Calhoun in LF Marisnick in CF and Calhoun in RF.

[Angels 1961]

30 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Jo currently would be the starting DH, with Moniak and Ward being better defenders. Signing Berlinger frees up one for a trade.

 

Who is Berlinger?

[Erstad Grit]

11 minutes ago, AngelsFaninGA said:

Angels signing Bellinger would be like the Rockies signing Ian Desmond. Just a dumb unserious team trying to spend money on anyone that will talk to them in the hopes of pretending to their fans that they're trying to win.

Like ok, we can sign no one and win 65 games or we can sign Bellinger and Snell and win 71 games but the optics will be slightly better to the most casual tier of fans who don't pay attention to wins and losses. Classic Arte move. 

Rockies trading/dumping Arenado and then signing Kris Byrant has to be the worst sequence in MLB history. 

[BTH]

1 minute ago, Angels 1961 said:

Who is Berlinger?

Ironic for you to be making fun of typing issues.

[Hubs]

I say go for it and add Bellinger, Snell, Imanaga and Hicks and Moore. Fuck it. You aren't gonna win if you don't open the check book. There are no significant upgrades coming from the farm in the next 2 seasons. 

24-25 MLB Free Agents include Pete Alonso, Wily Adames, Bregman, and a lot of pitchers. No one that exciting.

[Hubs]

13 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Who is Berlinger?

Autocorrect, lol

 

[Hubs]

11 minutes ago, BTH said:

Ironic for you to be making fun of typing issues.

Exactly. @Angels 1961 Typcial post. Adell OF Good Ward Ok Trout Hurt Durry sign Anderson?

[BTH]

5 minutes ago, Hubs said:

I say go for it and add Bellinger, Snell, Imanaga and Hicks and Moore. Fuck it. You aren't gonna win if you don't open the check book. There are no significant upgrades coming from the farm in the next 2 seasons. 

That’d be cool, but it’s not happening.

[Angels 1961]

28 minutes ago, BTH said:

Ironic for you to be making fun of typing issues.

I knew if I threw out a hook someone would bite.

[Angels 1961]

20 minutes ago, Hubs said:

I say go for it and add Bellinger, Snell, Imanaga and Hicks and Moore. Fuck it. You aren't gonna win if you don't open the check book. There are no significant upgrades coming from the farm in the next 2 seasons. 

24-25 MLB Free Agents include Pete Alonso, Wily Adames, Bregman, and a lot of pitchers. No one that exciting.

Open checkbook that is what Pujols, Wells, Hamilton, Upton, Rendon have said for years.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

14 hours ago, ScottT said:

Bellinger has had more than one good year. 

His last good season before 2023 was in 2019. I am not for paying $20M per year for one good season every three or four years.

Edited December 21, 2023 by Vegas Halo Fan

[Billy_Ball]

Quote

Both sides believe he can recoup some value in 2023 — the health aspect is big, but there’s familiarity in the organization for Bellinger. Assistant hitting coach Johnny Washington was a coach in the Dodgers minor league system from 2009 through 2015 and was the Padres hitting coach in 2019, when the two were in the NL West.

“J-Wash, we’ve been in close contact since he was with the Dodgers,” Bellinger said. “He’s just an intelligent guy and loves baseball. He’s known me since I was 17, 18 years old.”

https://www.marqueesportsnetwork.com/how-new-cubs-outfielder-cody-bellinger-can-bounce-back-in-chicago/

[ScottT]

5 hours ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

His last good season before 2023 was in 2019. I am not for paying $20M per year for one good season every three or four years.

I'm not either. Nor would I if I owned a team or was the gm.

The post I responded to was silly.

[Tank]

9 hours ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

His last good season before 2023 was in 2019. I am not for paying $20M per year for one good season every three or four years.

yep. let someone else roll the dice on him.

[jeskola]

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[Vegas Halo Fan]

On 12/21/2023 at 11:26 AM, Angels 1961 said:

Who is Berlinger?

Actually it's Berenger, the guy who played Jake Taylor in Major League.

[Angels 1961]

5 minutes ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

Actually it's Berenger, the guy who played Jake Taylor in Major League.

Was he an OF?

[Vegas Halo Fan]

10 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Was he an OF?

Catcher.