The Official 2023 MLB Trade Deadline Thread

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[m0nkey]

5 minutes ago, Tank said:

don't the padres already have a closer, and a pretty good one at that?

Barlow has a 5+ ERA and a 1.55 WHIP.  He was closer by default

[mmc]

Kolten Wong, Jean Segura, and Josh Harrison are all getting released.  A few options for depth.

[Ender]

Just now, mmc said:

Kolten Wong, Jean Segura, and Josh Harrison are all getting released.  A few options for depth.

You do not want Kolten Wong. I swear to you. 

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[Angels in 2030]

i think i'd rather Arte spend that $50-60M/year on scouting instead of Ohtani.  Tired of bad draft picks traded for RPs who suck. 

[fan_since79]

A little late to the thread...just heard that the Phillies acquired Lorenzen from Detroit. Is that true?

[Angels 1961]

3 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

A little late to the thread...just heard that the Phillies acquired Lorenzen from Detroit. Is that true?

yes

[ten ocho recon scout]

20 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

Weird to read that, after how crazy they went this past winter 

[HeavenlyHalos]

17 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

The Yankees big trade deadline acquisitions are Keynan Middleton and Spencer Howard lol

The Yankees offense is Judge and a bunch of average to crap players. I'd be absolutely shocked if they make it to the playoffs. 

[Angels 1961]

It was a good day as Rodriquez turns down Dodgers to stay in Detroit.

[Angelsfan1984]

I think the Angels improved past the yanks and red sox. Think the bichette injury could hurt the Jays more than expected. He's a massive part of that offense. Time to chase down the Rangers and Astros. Now or never fellas!

[Angels 1961]

5 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Weird to read that, after how crazy they went this past winter 

Let this be a lesson to all you cannot but a trip to WS. Be like Houston invest in thrash cans

[Angels 1961]

7 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Weird to read that, after how crazy they went this past winter 

When turn around comes Billy will not be their

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[Revad]

I’ll raise you:

[jsnpritchett]

 

Edited August 1, 2023 by jsnpritchett

[Angel Oracle]

From my post in the Leone thread:

It appears that since May 23, subtracting just the one bad outing against the Cheaters in mid-June:

21.2 innings, 11 hits, 29/9 Ks/BBs, 2.10 ERA, 0.93 WHIP

Maybe he stopped throwing the cutter so much?

Past 3 outings, 4 seam 95-97mph, slider mid 80s

[Revad]

2 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

From my post in the Leone thread:

It appears that since May 23, subtracting just the one bad outing against the Cheaters in mid-June:

21.2 innings, 11 hits, 29/9 Ks/BBs, 2.10 ERA, 0.93 WHIP

Maybe he stopped throwing the cutter so much?

Past 3 outings, 4 seam 95-97mph, slider mid 80s

I see it- I’m liking the job Minasain has done basically re-tooling the team.

[Angels 1961]

33 minutes ago, Revad said:

I see it- I’m liking the job Minasain has done basically re-tooling the team.

Yes, Perry has done a really good job. Nice to be in race.

[jsnpritchett]

Jim Bowden's trade deadline grades for all teams.  Gives the Angels a D. 

https://theathletic.com/4737999/2023/08/02/mlb-trade-deadline-grade-2023/

"Key takeaways: The Angels put all their chips in and “rolled the dice,” as GM Perry Minasian characterized it in explaining their deadline. First, they decided not to trade Shohei Ohtani for what would have been the biggest return for a rental player in major-league history — we’re talking, probably six to eight top-20 type prospects. But the Angels will never know what they actually could have gotten back because they took Ohtani off the trade market a week before the deadline. Next, they traded two of their top five prospects to land impending free agent Lucas Giolito (and Reynaldo López, also a rental), then two of their top 30 prospects for impending free agents C.J. Cron and Randal Grichuk.

The Angels basically mortgaged their future because they feel they can still make the playoffs, which, if they’re successful, would improve their chances of re-signing Ohtani this winter. But I don’t think they are going to make the playoffs, particularly considering the rough schedule that awaits in August, and thus, likely will not be able to re-sign Ohtani, and thus, will have traded several of their top 10 prospects for expiring contracts.

I sincerely hope they do make the playoffs and Ohtani re-signs and I’m wrong. But I think in the offseason they’ll look back at this trade deadline and wish they had approached it in the opposite fashion. In the meantime, give Minasian credit. If you’re going to go for it, then go for it, and he certainly did, despite the potential consequences for himself and the club."

[ten ocho recon scout]

17 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Jim Bowden's trade deadline grades for all teams.  Gives the Angels a D. 

https://theathletic.com/4737999/2023/08/02/mlb-trade-deadline-grade-2023/

"Key takeaways: The Angels put all their chips in and “rolled the dice,” as GM Perry Minasian characterized it in explaining their deadline. First, they decided not to trade Shohei Ohtani for what would have been the biggest return for a rental player in major-league history — we’re talking, probably six to eight top-20 type prospects. But the Angels will never know what they actually could have gotten back because they took Ohtani off the trade market a week before the deadline. Next, they traded two of their top five prospects to land impending free agent Lucas Giolito (and Reynaldo López, also a rental), then two of their top 30 prospects for impending free agents C.J. Cron and Randal Grichuk.

The Angels basically mortgaged their future because they feel they can still make the playoffs, which, if they’re successful, would improve their chances of re-signing Ohtani this winter. But I don’t think they are going to make the playoffs, particularly considering the rough schedule that awaits in August, and thus, likely will not be able to re-sign Ohtani, and thus, will have traded several of their top 10 prospects for expiring contracts.

I sincerely hope they do make the playoffs and Ohtani re-signs and I’m wrong. But I think in the offseason they’ll look back at this trade deadline and wish they had approached it in the opposite fashion. In the meantime, give Minasian credit. If you’re going to go for it, then go for it, and he certainly did, despite the potential consequences for himself and the club."

It's a valid point. I've read a few others giving the Angels an A. So shoulder shrug.

That said, he's off with Ohtani fetching 6 top 20 prospects. The Mets did well for Verlander, for sure. They got 2. And I doubt anyone would have been jumping up and down for that for Ohtani.

Ohtani in theory is worth more than Verlander. But what team who's in it this year, who would move on Ohtani, has a slew of bona-fide can't miss prospects? Maybe there is a team, I have no idea. But looking at the top 100 prospects list, they're all spread out over 30 teams.... not like one or three teams, who are in the playoff race, with like 5 guys in the top 100.

The time to flip Ohtani for a massive return was a long, long time ago.

[mmc]

Deadline has passed but there's still more urgency than ever so I definitely expect us to be somewhat aggressive with possible waiver claims, or veteran signings at any position that isn't pulling their weight.

[rafibomb]

 

[rottiesworld]

On 8/1/2023 at 4:38 PM, Skips said:

i think i'd rather Arte spend that $50-60M/year on scouting instead of Ohtani.  Tired of bad draft picks traded for RPs who suck. 

They probably screw that up and not know how to find and hire good people for scouting