This team is not magical

[wopphil]

1 hour ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Too much dead weight in the lineup. We rely on the top of the order to do everything.

The lineup really isn’t that great. We have a great core in Ohtani/Trout/Adell/Walsh, but then five spots that are either total question marks or likely to provide subpar production. Which might be okay if we had excellent pitching. 

[Vlad27Trout27]

With Suzuki behind the plate; 17ers in 2 games

Stassi: 3ers in 2 games

[Justin]

37 minutes ago, wopphil said:

We have a great core in Ohtani/Trout/Adell/Walsh

Is there a joke I'm missing with your inclusion of Adell? 

[Tank]

2 hours ago, bloodbrother said:

 

so why not just sign jeff mathis?

[Tank]

[Angel Oracle]

2 hours ago, Bronson said:

Why do I feel like these line drives to Adell are catchable?

Because they are?

[HanfordGuy]

[Reveille1984]

I mean, Marsh is fine.  Not sure why he's getting hate.  2 for 7 in two games with 2 walks and some good ABs. 

Trout and Marsh need to be the two stalwarts in the OF in my opinion.  If Maddon doesn't have faith in Adell just send him to AAA and at least get him some reps.  

But yeah, this offense is pretty concerning, especially if our core guys are going to be getting a lot of rest days.  Looking at the quality of ABs and plate discipline from Houston versus our scrubs is night and day.  Fletcher is a utility/bench guy at this point, and everyone outside of Ohtani/Trout/Walsh/Rendon are just plugs.

[Docwaukee]

2 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

I'm pretty sure he's serious.

meh.  sort of.  mostly it's that you've got to beat good teams in the way that we saw the astros beat the Angels.  That wasn't some dominant beat down and as @AngelsLakersFan said earlier it's the little things to some degree (even though I disagree with his example).  But several of the concerns I had already showed up in just four games.  

Even though the pen wasn't perfect, it will get better as starters lengthen their outings.  So less Herget and Ortega in high leverage.  AT least until they get some confidence and god willing they're used correctly.  

Lineup depth sucks.  Reliant mostly on your top four.  Maybe five.  We've already seen Duffy and Mayfield at cleanup vs. lefties.  Sure, fine, they've had a couple hits, but those are not sustainable cleanup hitters.  And Adell and Marsh are going to struggle at times.  But like today, the fourth game of the season, our 4-9 was mayfield, adell, rojas, suzuki, fletcher and Wade.  That bottom three is a shit show if someone has a night off.  

And maybe it's also that the Astros consistently pull prospects out of their ass like we haven't really been able to do in years.  Like Pena, McCormick and Siri.  Those guys come up and somehow end up at least serviceable.  But they're conceding 2, maybe 3 spots in the lineup.  Today we conceded 6.  And if you're not convinced it's a concession based on these first four games, just wait till it actually plays out over the long season.  

Everyone's biggest concern was SP.  We got solid to really good performances in all four starts during this series and lost 3 of 4 to the team we're gonna be looking up at who seemed to be just a little bit better at everything.  

[IheartLA]

Astros have been the top team in the AL five straight ALCS appearances. I’m gonna wait a few more series before I’m ready to write off this team.

[Vlad27Trout27]

Bottom of the line-up has been awful, but the top besides Walsh hasn't done much either. 

[Lou]

1 minute ago, cals said:

I really want the Angels to succeed this year.  And frankly I had and still have a feeling that this year is going to be different.  That said, this place is more fun when shit is going wrong.

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On 10/19/2020 at 9:37 AM, Lou said:

That's my jam!

 

[Lou]

Just now, cals said:

How do you find old posts so quickly?

I'm magical 

[Lou]

Just now, cals said:

Just like the Astros!

Exactly.

No, but seriously, I am. 

[Docwaukee]

21 minutes ago, Lou said:

Exactly.

No, but seriously, I am. 

so you cheat?  

[fan_since79]

The only positives I'm finding in this 2022 version of the Angels are:

Trout and Rendon are healthy (so far)

Syndergaard could be a magical reclamation project after all.

There is an additional wild card to chase.

 

Other than that, I can't think offhand of anything.

[Lou]

18 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

so you cheat?  

Have you watched the last season of Peaky Blinders?

[Lou]

17 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

The only positives I'm finding in this 2022 version of the Angels are:

Trout and Rendon are healthy (so far)

Syndergaard could be a magical reclamation project after all.

There is an additional wild card to chase.

 

Other than that, I can't think offhand of anything.

LOUp

[ScottT]

No teams are magical 

[NrM]

Adell gives me Brandon Wood/Dallas McPherson vibes tbh

[Docwaukee]

1 hour ago, ScottT said:

No teams are magical 

the m's were last year.  

[Lou]

48 minutes ago, NrM said:

Adell gives me Brandon Wood/Dallas McPherson vibes tbh

McPherson had an OPS of .755 for us. 

[AngelsFanSince86]

1 hour ago, fan_since79 said:

The only positives I'm finding in this 2022 version of the Angels are:

Trout and Rendon are healthy (so far)

Syndergaard could be a magical reclamation project after all.

There is an additional wild card to chase.

 

Other than that, I can't think offhand of anything.

Yeah between Ohtani and Syndergaard I can at least look forward to the first 5 innings of 1/3 of the games

[Puget Sound Angel]

57 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

the m's were last year.  

They didn't make the playoffs for the 22nd some odd year in a row.

[Angel Oracle]

5 hours ago, Dochalo said:

meh.  sort of.  mostly it's that you've got to beat good teams in the way that we saw the astros beat the Angels.  That wasn't some dominant beat down and as @AngelsLakersFan said earlier it's the little things to some degree (even though I disagree with his example).  But several of the concerns I had already showed up in just four games.  

Even though the pen wasn't perfect, it will get better as starters lengthen their outings.  So less Herget and Ortega in high leverage.  AT least until they get some confidence and god willing they're used correctly.  

Lineup depth sucks.  Reliant mostly on your top four.  Maybe five.  We've already seen Duffy and Mayfield at cleanup vs. lefties.  Sure, fine, they've had a couple hits, but those are not sustainable cleanup hitters.  And Adell and Marsh are going to struggle at times.  But like today, the fourth game of the season, our 4-9 was mayfield, adell, rojas, suzuki, fletcher and Wade.  That bottom three is a shit show if someone has a night off.  

And maybe it's also that the Astros consistently pull prospects out of their ass like we haven't really been able to do in years.  Like Pena, McCormick and Siri.  Those guys come up and somehow end up at least serviceable.  But they're conceding 2, maybe 3 spots in the lineup.  Today we conceded 6.  And if you're not convinced it's a concession based on these first four games, just wait till it actually plays out over the long season.  

Everyone's biggest concern was SP.  We got solid to really good performances in all four starts during this series and lost 3 of 4 to the team we're gonna be looking up at who seemed to be just a little bit better at everything.  

Biggest difference between Cheaters and Halos: developing international talent

Other than Ohtani (no minors time here) and maybe Suarez eventually, who has truly made it here?

Now contrast that to the Cheaters.   Altuve, Alvarez, Gurriel, Valdez, Javier, Urquidy, Siri, etc.

When will the Halos start seeing that? Can’t blame Clay Daniels anymore, he was let go a long time ago (12+ years back).

Edited April 11, 2022 by Angel Oracle