Is Re-Signing Raisel Iglesias the Smart Move?

[tdawg87]

22 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

I think you're agreeing with me, but the triple (or quadruple?) negative makes me slightly unclear...

You had an In N Out joke tee'd up for you and you didn't swing.

[jsnpritchett]

2 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

You had an In N Out joke tee'd up for you and you didn't swing.

I don't eat In N Out, so not really well-versed in jokes about them.

[tdawg87]

7 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

I don't eat In N Out, so not really well-versed in jokes about them.

[jsnpritchett]

Just now, tdawg87 said:

Sorry I'm not fat.

[tdawg87]

31 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Sorry I'm not fat.

Ok Larry.

[ettin]

1 hour ago, jsnpritchett said:

I don't eat In N Out, so not really well-versed in jokes about them.

Jason likes Five Guys. 

[stormngt]

22 hours ago, Stradling said:

I doubt we had a “sucky” bullpen 10 of the last 13 years. You stated it as fact so you do the research. 

This quote of yours proves you knew of my correction.  That I meant to say 10 of 12 years and not 20 of 22.

I made the corrections and you knew about it 22 hours ago.

[stormngt]

16 hours ago, Stradling said:

Ok I got bored after looking at 2003, 2004 and 2005, all were better than league average bullpens.  

Just 6 hours later you pretend to ignore the fact that I meant 10 of 12 years.  Fact news just pretend to win an argument on an internet chat?  That is really sad.

[Stradling]

29 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Just 6 hours later you pretend to ignore the fact that I meant 10 of 12 years.  Fact news just pretend to win an argument on an internet chat?  That is really sad.

yea, I need to win an argument from you, ok.  Bottom line is you said 20 of 22.  I took exception to that, because that is what you typed.  The bullpen has been bad since 2018, before that it was almost always league average or better.  2017 3.3 k's for every walk, and a sub .700 OPS against, respectable whip.

[stormngt]

7 hours ago, Stradling said:

yea, I need to win an argument from you, ok.  Bottom line is you said 20 of 22.  I took exception to that, because that is what you typed.  The bullpen has been bad since 2018, before that it was almost always league average or better.  2017 3.3 k's for every walk, and a sub .700 OPS against, respectable whip.

Bullshit.  You saw my correction.  You even commented on my correction.   

[Jeff Fletcher]

On 10/22/2021 at 7:43 AM, Angel Oracle said:

They may need to do the QO as a start towards a new contract.   Kind of like a good faith gesture?

Do you think a player like Iglesias sees a QO as a good faith gesture?

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Do you think a player like Iglesias sees a QO as a good faith gesture?

You make it sound like being thrown an anchor while trying to swim is a negative....

[Angel Oracle]

3 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Do you think a player like Iglesias sees a QO as a good faith gesture?

I guess both sides could be looked at.

On the one hand, a QO means the team is definitely interested in keeping him.

On the other hand, it could also be a turn off as he could interpret it as they don’t want to sign him to a multi-year deal.

[totdprods]

3 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

I guess both sides could be looked at.

On the one hand, a QO means the team is definitely interested in keeping him.

On the other hand, it could also be a turn off as he could interpret it as they don’t want to sign him to a multi-year deal.

It drives down competing interest. Other teams want to pay less when a QO is involved and limits suitors.

Edited October 27, 2021 by totdprods

[Jeff Fletcher]

8 minutes ago, totdprods said:

It drives down competing interest. Other teams want to pay less when a QO is involved and limits suitors.

^^^^

[jsnpritchett]

7 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Do you think a player like Iglesias sees a QO as a good faith gesture?

Unless they are actively engaged in contract talks with him right now and think they have an extremely good chance of signing him, it would still be absolute insanity for them not to make a qualifying offer to him, regardless of what kind of gesture he feels that would be.  We've been over this 100 times on here.  They obviously didn't trade him at the deadline (for reasons that still aren't really clear).  If they don't re-sign him and they don't extend a QO, then they get nothing for him and they kept him at the deadline even though they had no realistic shot at making the playoffs. 

[Blarg]

7 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Do you think a player like Iglesias sees a QO as a good faith gesture?

If the Angels only make a qualifying offer it means they couldnt reach an agreement on a longer term deal and want the draft pick. 

[Revad]

1 hour ago, Blarg said:

If the Angels only make a qualifying offer it means they couldnt reach an agreement on a longer term deal and want the draft pick. 

They have to decide five days after WS ends.  If a multi year deal is reached before then, great.  If not, make the QO and try again.

[Angel Oracle]

Per Rhett Bollinger (MLB.com), QO is likely to be made to Iglesias.

Deadline will be at the latest November 7 or 8, depending on when the WS ends.

If it happens, first time ever that Arte Moreno offered one?

Edited November 2, 2021 by Angel Oracle

[angelsnationtalk]

8 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Per Rhett Bollinger (MLB.com), QO is likely to be made to Iglesias.

Deadline will be at the latest November 7 or 8, depending on when the WS ends.

If it happens, first time ever that Arte Moreno offered one?

This would be a huge joke on Arte. 
You've got one of the best closers in the league who has pitched his way to prove to you that he's earned an extension but you're going to give him a QO and cash in on him with a draft pick if he goes elsewhere?

Yikes...

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

This would be a huge joke on Arte. 
You've got one of the best closers in the league who has pitched his way to prove to you that he's earned an extension but you're going to give him a QO and cash in on him with a draft pick if he goes elsewhere?

Yikes...

Haha. Ok Buddy. 

[totdprods]

8 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Per Rhett Bollinger (MLB.com), QO is likely to be made to Iglesias.

Deadline will be at the latest November 7 or 8, depending on when the WS ends.

If it happens, first time ever that Arte Moreno offered one?

This is the right move.

[Slegnaac]

36 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

This would be a huge joke on Arte. 
You've got one of the best closers in the league who has pitched his way to prove to you that he's earned an extension but you're going to give him a QO and cash in on him with a draft pick if he goes elsewhere?

Yikes...

QO does not prohibit their ability to negotiate a longer term contract. 

[Stradling]

1 hour ago, Slegnaac said:

QO does not prohibit their ability to negotiate a longer term contract. 

He face palms you because he’s the one that doesn’t get it, classic. 

[HanfordGuy]

Does Iglesias want to return? Offer him the QO and see what happens.