SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19

[Jay]

2 hours ago, cals said:

Guys I’ll say this one more time.

I'm going to hold you to that.

[Kotchman]

2 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

It's a disease that goes through stages.  Do you really think there was some breakthrough drug that stopped the first big surge in Calolfornia?  Because there wasn't, the virus itself stopped spreading.  Whether it was environmental, or it ran out of vulnerable fat people to infect, or band practice was finally over, the virus just retreated.  The vaccines were barely distributed so it wasn't that.  There were no new drugs to treat.  Policy was still the same.  The virus just went away.  Same as what happened in India, and all other countries.  Kind of like.......the flu.  There will be a period where the flu is rampant.  Then it'll just go away till the next period.  

And I'm big on these alternative treatments.  Look through all 993 pages, and I've linked a lot of them.  And a lot of them were promising, but after going through reviews, most were about as good as placebos.  And I'm not saying that they might be effective, because the fruit cocktail redisvir or something like that is proving effective for people in the ICU.  But it's not good for people that just have the sniffles.  

Regarding Ivermectin.  Official clinical trials have really not even started yet. 

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04920942

https://www.everydayhealth.com/coronavirus/repurposed-drugs-may-offer-treatment-for-mild-to-moderate-covid-19/

Unofficial trials that just pull data have been what these articles seem to be about.  Problem with these types of trials is data gets skewed, because they are just general data, like judging a baseball player solely on Avg.  Shohei Ohtani sucks as a baseball player, because his average is just .269.  

The interesting pull I got from a planned clinical trial for Ivermectin.  First, it's for mild or moderate symptoms.  Which is in itself a problem, because most mild or moderate symptoms don't become severe symptoms.  So without treatment, 95% could have never progressed to severe anyways.  So saying 95% was positively affected is skewing numbers.  Second is the dosage.  The clinical trial is looking at 0.4 mg.  The dose that people are taking which was meant for a horse is 6.08 grams.  

https://zeroeggcount.com/blogs/news/whatisivermectin

Couldn’t the same be said for the vaccine? The virus is back and we are looking at more doses. Did the vaccine work or did the virus just fizzle out?

[St1ck]

The Washington Post: Florida judge rules state overstepped authority restricting school districts from enacting mask mandates
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/08/27/florida-schools-mask-ruling/

 

[Kotchman]

I’m willing to look at our numbers and say the vaccine was likely effective in lower cases and deaths. Likely the same conclusion can be drawn from India 

[Crampknees]

9 minutes ago, cals said:

(By the way @Blarg, you were wonderful)

yes, yes indeed

[Kotchman]

11 minutes ago, cals said:

(By the way @Blarg, you were wonderful)

Now that’s an insult 

[gotbeer]

2 minutes ago, Kotchman said:

Couldn’t the same be said for the vaccine? The virus is back and we are looking at more doses. Did the vaccine work or did the virus just fizzle out?

 

It's been proven that those that have gotten the vaccine aren't seeing the more severe cases.  Problem is the nitwits in charge have been falsely promoting the vaccine as a cure.  They have also been falsely promoting that those that are vaccinated will rarely get it, as "breakthrough" cases.  And the third Pinocchio they have been saying is that those vaccinated can't spread it.  

This is what causes people to doubt and question what the dumbshits say to the point that they don't believe any of it.

Most on here will laugh at me for the next statement.  But there is more truth to it than people will admit.  Covid is just like the flu.  Very large difference between Covid and the flu though is that you can't go to the pharmacy to get some over the counter medicine to self treat yourself.  A doctor can't prescribe to you Tamiflu or some other more aggressive treatment if your flu doesn't go away or your symptoms get worse.  Until the beginning of this year, you couldn't get a vaccine for it like the flu.  And like the flu vaccine, if the variant changes, the vaccine might become ineffective.  And also like the flu vaccine, the potency wears off over time.  But today, we do have a vaccine.  We also have an aggressive treatment for it, but can only be used in a hospital setting.  Once we get an over the counter medicine for it, we will probably see rates like the flu.   But until that day comes, we are really at the mercy of depending on the vaccine to not get us to the level of hospitalization and death.

[Jay]

8 minutes ago, St1ck said:

The Washington Post: Florida judge rules state overstepped authority restricting school districts from enacting mask mandates
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/08/27/florida-schools-mask-ruling/

 

IMO it's more in line with conservative principles if decisions such as mask mandates are made on a local level. Similar to state's rights, we have county, city, school district rights to decide whether or not masks should be required.

[St1ck]

3 minutes ago, Jay said:

IMO it's more in line with conservative principles if decisions such as mask mandates are made on a local level. Similar to state's rights, we have county, city, school district rights to decide whether or not masks should be required.

A lot of the school districts just started ignoring him anyway. 

[Kotchman]

3 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

 

It's been proven that those that have gotten the vaccine aren't seeing the more severe cases.  Problem is the nitwits in charge have been falsely promoting the vaccine as a cure.  They have also been falsely promoting that those that are vaccinated will rarely get it, as "breakthrough" cases.  And the third Pinocchio they have been saying is that those vaccinated can't spread it.  

This is what causes people to doubt and question what the dumbshits say to the point that they don't believe any of it.

Most on here will laugh at me for the next statement.  But there is more truth to it than people will admit.  Covid is just like the flu.  Very large difference between Covid and the flu though is that you can't go to the pharmacy to get some over the counter medicine to self treat yourself.  A doctor can't prescribe to you Tamiflu or some other more aggressive treatment if your flu doesn't go away or your symptoms get worse.  Until the beginning of this year, you couldn't get a vaccine for it like the flu.  And like the flu vaccine, if the variant changes, the vaccine might become ineffective.  And also like the flu vaccine, the potency wears off over time.  But today, we do have a vaccine.  We also have an aggressive treatment for it, but can only be used in a hospital setting.  Once we get an over the counter medicine for it, we will probably see rates like the flu.   But until that day comes, we are really at the mercy of depending on the vaccine to not get us to the level of hospitalization and death.

I mostly agree with you. 

[Kotchman]

1 minute ago, cals said:

Hew was so squishy and warm in my mind. 

You did say you were jerking off so I assumed y’all were together 

[Kotchman]

1 minute ago, cals said:

No, I sometimes change things up in my jerking rotation and throw an AW member in.  Next time I'll be destroying @Taylors pristine ass.

It’s likely smooth but you can probably get more friction from a mayonnaise jar. 

[Crampknees]

6 minutes ago, cals said:

 

Just got around to reading this story.  I'm going to need to do a load of washcloths in the laundry.

Get one of these and invite some friends

[Crampknees]

Cals sprinklers at home

Edited August 27, 2021 by Crampknees

[tdawg87]

You guys are fags

[Jason]

21 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

You guys are fags

These forums are the gayest thing I've been a part of 

[St1ck]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

These forums are the gayest thing I've been a part of 

Gayer than the time you were airtight with dicks? 

[Jason]

11 minutes ago, St1ck said:

Gayer than the time you were airtight with dicks? 

Yep

[Jason]

Houston reports COVID-19 death in child with no underlying conditions | Fox News

How does this make you feel @cals

[St1ck]

Texas Covid: Gov. Abbott deploys thousands of out-of-state medical staff to fight surge
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/26/texas-covid-gov-abbott-deploys-thousands-of-out-of-state-medical-staff-to-battle-delta-surge.html

 

[tdawg87]

@cals

https://news.yahoo.com/texas-anti-mask-freedom-rally-045722778.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw&tsrc=twtr

[Crampknees]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

These forums are the gayest thing I've been a part of 

[St1ck]

3 minutes ago, cals said:

I believe I already spunked over this one. 

There will be more than one person that was at that rally that will end up in the hospital so have at it. 

[Crampknees]

54 minutes ago, Jason said:

Houston reports COVID-19 death in child with no underlying conditions | Fox News

How does this make you feel @cals

10-19 and call it a child sounds right for the propaganda whores. If they say 7000 can over the border with covid divide by 100.  

[Redondo]

HHS diverting millions in funding marked for vaccine efforts to housing migrant children