2019 Trade Deadline Candidates

[Chuck]

If Lucroy, La Stella and Goodwin remain productive, would you look to deal them for prospects close to the big league level at the deadline?

Also, if Calhoun rips the cover off the ball from now until then, in addition to Tyler Skaggs performing well, you have to look at trading these two guys as well. What does Skaggs contract look like right now, how many years is he signed through? I'd rather keep Heaney out of the two current LHP's we have, plus we have Suarez and Sandoval knocking on the door. 

It's too bad that we're most likely not going to get a penny in return for Harvey, Cahill, Allen and Cozart. 

[mp170.6]

8 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

It's too bad that we're most likely not going to get a penny in return for Harvey, Cahill, Allen and Cozart. 

They need to throw in Ausmus on that deal

[totdprods]

First, a lot can change still. One year ago, Kinsler looked like a lost cause. He hadn’t had his breakout series in Detroit, was hitting .190 with an OPS below .600. In two months’ time, he managed to get us Buttrey and Jerez. 

So, Lucroy and Calhoun look attractive now, and Cahill, Harvey, Allen don’t, but things can and will change.

I wouldn’t trade Goodwin or La Stella. They’re worth more to us as, at the very least, cheap, productive depth for 2020 than whatever anyone is likely willing to offer for their one ‘breakout’ year. 

I’d seriously shop Skaggs. He still isn’t putting it together for us and next year is his final year of control, so even if he puts it all together now, we’ll likely risk him walking after next year and only get a year’s worth of his ceiling. I’d shop him big time. Houston, San Diego, Boston, Atlanta, Philly, and Yanks all would be interested. I think he’d do well in Houston and the Angels could pull a haul. They’ll have a need on a lotto-tick SP like Skaggs - his ceiling and his floor would both be worth it to them, and they have a knack for getting big results from pitchers like Tyler. It’s be good him, good for them, and good for the Angels to poach from their system.

Edited May 25, 2019 by totdprods

[Troll Daddy]

Sad we’re already talking about the trade deadline as sellers. I read a article on MLB two days ago saying the Angels were going to be buyers. 

[Warfarin]

3 hours ago, totdprods said:

First, a lot can change still. One year ago, Kinsler looked like a lost cause. He hadn’t had his breakout series in Detroit, was hitting .190 with an OPS below .600. In two months’ time, he managed to get us Buttrey and Jerez. 

So, Lucroy and Calhoun look attractive now, and Cahill, Harvey, Allen don’t, but things can and will change.

I wouldn’t trade Goodwin or La Stella. They’re worth more to us as, at the very least, cheap, productive depth for 2020 than whatever anyone is likely willing to offer for their one ‘breakout’ year. 

I’d seriously shop Skaggs. He still isn’t putting it together for us and next year is his final year of control, so even if he puts it all together now, we’ll likely risk him walking after next year and only get a year’s worth of his ceiling. I’d shop him big time. Houston, San Diego, Boston, Atlanta, Philly, and Yanks all would be interested. I think he’d do well in Houston and the Angels could pull a haul. They’ll have a need on a lotto-tick SP like Skaggs - his ceiling and his floor would both be worth it to them, and they have a knack for getting big results from pitchers like Tyler. It’s be good him, good for them, and good for the Angels to poach from their system.

I agree with all of this, especially the "I wouldn't trade Goodwin or La Stella" part.  Goodwin is our bridge to Adell, and at the worst, he's a very good 4th OFer - something many people have been pining for for years.

While I don't necessarily expect La Stella to continue with his power outburst, many other things indicate what we are seeing is real - his BABIP is actually low, his BB% is higher than his K% (which is incredibly low), etc.  I'd keep him and, in truth, consider extending him, if the FO feels what they are seeing is sustainable over the course of the next several years.

Otherwise, in addition to the obvious guys on 1-year deals, I'd shop Skaggs and Calhoun for sure.  I have to imagine between Skaggs, Calhoun, Lucroy, Bedrosian .. we can at least get a few prospects who will be contributors to our future core to varying degrees.

[totdprods]

Just now, Warfarin said:

I agree with all of this, especially the "I wouldn't trade Goodwin or La Stella" part.  Goodwin is our bridge to Adell, and at the worst, he's a very good 4th OFer - something many people have been pining for for years.

While I don't necessarily expect La Stella to continue with his power outburst, many other things indicate what we are seeing is real - his BABIP is actually low, his BB% is higher than his K% (which is incredibly low), etc.  I'd keep him and, in truth, consider extending him, if the FO feels what they are seeing is sustainable over the course of the next several years.

Otherwise, in addition to the obvious guys on 1-year deals, I'd shop Skaggs and Calhoun for sure.  I have to imagine between Skaggs, Calhoun, Lucroy, Bedrosian .. we can at least get a few prospects who will be contributors to our future core to varying degrees.

The other good thing is if they do prove this performance is legit, they could become trade pieces next year when guys like Adell, Marsh, Lund, Hermosillo, Hunter, Rengifo, Jones, Rivas, Torres, etc. start pushing for playing time.

[floplag]

2 hours ago, Troll Daddy said:

Sad we’re already talking about the trade deadline as sellers. I read a article on MLB two days ago saying the Angels were going to be buyers. 

i would love to hear what logic that was based on... link?

[fan_since79]

If Calhoun gets his act together and, as you said, hits the cover off the ball, absolutely make him available.

Skaggs too. Not at all comfortable with keeping him re: his tendency to get injured. Shop him while his value is decent.

Whatever happens, I don't want to see Cozart, Cahill, Harvey, or Allen anywhere near Anaheim next year. Dump them all.

[Troll Daddy]

10 minutes ago, floplag said:

i would love to hear what logic that was based on... link?

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2837288-playing-buyer-or-seller-with-all-30-mlb-teams-in-late-may.amp.html

 

lol

[Lou]

Bleacher Report, Sports for Idiots 

[mmc]

I think we should be buying and selling.  Make moves that will improve the team in the future.  The players I want us to trade at the deadline are:

Harvey

Cahill

Lucroy

Bour

Skaggs

La Stella

One of Calhoun or Goodwin

Any reliever other than Anderson, Buttrey, Cole, Middleton, and Robles (except if it's an overpayment)

 

Start moving these guys out no later than a week before the deadline, and then with the assets acquired from these deals + the prospects we already have, start making moves to add to the team for 2020 and beyond.

[totdprods]

Buying and selling should be on the menu. This past offseason was proof positive that even if you have money to spend, there’s no assurance of getting the free agent you want, or at the price you feel comfortable paying.

Sell some players to add to our prospect pool, and buy a key piece or two. Supplement those additions in FA.

Edited May 26, 2019 by totdprods

[Lou]

We should trade our shitty players and get good players in return 

[fan_since79]

Watch the Dodgers go out and get Kimbrel.

Have we at least made any efforts in this direction? 

 

[Lou]

9 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

Watch the Dodgers go out and get Kimbrel.

Have we at least made any efforts in this direction? 

You love the Dodgers 

[DMVol]

21 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

Watch the Dodgers go out and get Kimbrel.

I would bet on the Braves....Not sure about Keuchel....Astros wouldn’t surprise me.

[Claude]

[Second Base]

7 hours ago, totdprods said:

First, a lot can change still. One year ago, Kinsler looked like a lost cause. He hadn’t had his breakout series in Detroit, was hitting .190 with an OPS below .600. In two months’ time, he managed to get us Buttrey and Jerez. 

So, Lucroy and Calhoun look attractive now, and Cahill, Harvey, Allen don’t, but things can and will change.

I wouldn’t trade Goodwin or La Stella. They’re worth more to us as, at the very least, cheap, productive depth for 2020 than whatever anyone is likely willing to offer for their one ‘breakout’ year. 

I’d seriously shop Skaggs. He still isn’t putting it together for us and next year is his final year of control, so even if he puts it all together now, we’ll likely risk him walking after next year and only get a year’s worth of his ceiling. I’d shop him big time. Houston, San Diego, Boston, Atlanta, Philly, and Yanks all would be interested. I think he’d do well in Houston and the Angels could pull a haul. They’ll have a need on a lotto-tick SP like Skaggs - his ceiling and his floor would both be worth it to them, and they have a knack for getting big results from pitchers like Tyler. It’s be good him, good for them, and good for the Angels to poach from their system.

The Angels are on the brink of becoming a truly competitive team for a very long time. The Angels shouldn't be selling like they're in a full scale rebuild. Keep the guys that will help, but sell on expiring contracts and guys that are over- performing their ability level. 

I wouldn't sell on Skaggs. He loves pitching in So-Cal, loves the Angels,  is left handed so limits left handed hitters benefiting from the shortened fence on right field. He's a solid enough starter that he can stay around long term and there's still some breakout potential. 

But La Stella, yeah I would sell high on him. Calhoun too. Goodwin as well. I would move Cahill to the bullpen immediately so he can have some success there then trade him. Harvey too.

But what we do agree on is that the Angels should be buying and selling. There should be some dealing and roster tweaking going on in prep for our run beginning next year.  

[ten ocho recon scout]

8 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

If Lucroy, La Stella and Goodwin remain productive, would you look to deal them for prospects close to the big league level at the deadline?

1000 percent yes

Not because I dislike them. But we should be stoked we actually have non core guys to trade this year.

La Stella especially has been fun to watch. But how real is he? I have no clue. If we can get someone to overpay for any of those guys (as in a legit prospect) we should jump.

[Tank]

4 hours ago, Lou said:

We should trade our shitty players and get good players in return 

Interesting idea. You could be on to something here.

[eaterfan]

13 hours ago, Lou said:

We should trade our shitty players and get good players in return 

I did some research into this idea. Turns out it's been a pretty successful strategy when executed correctly. Someone should really pass it along to the front office.

[Jeff Fletcher]

For your reference, these are the guys not under control past 2019

Harvey, Cahill, Lucroy, Allen.

Calhoun has an option.

Of the other guys you mentioned: Skaggs and La Stella are arb eligible for one more year, Goodwin for three more.

[nando714]

Calhoun has a 10 mil option? Hard pass

id try and actually lock up lucroy to another season here 

any catchers coming up soon?

[T.G.]

15 hours ago, Lou said:

We should trade our shitty players and get good players in return 

That doesn't work here. The Angels' crappy guys go on to monster careers and the guys they get in return end up as monumental disasters.

 

[Blarg]

Last night in the IE I watched Adell get his first two hits on a cool windy night. The Ports pitcher was mowing down the 66ers, even Adell in the first inning. His second at bat he crushed one to deep center on a low arched drive that hit the base of the wall 410 feet away for a double. His second hit was a burner line drive right over the 2nd baseman into right center field. This was only his second game back from rehab and he is already dialing in. I think Calhoun could be expendable.