The Angels definitely won the Simmons/Newcomb trade

[Adam]

The Angels won the trade but they did get ripped off because they could have gotten Simmons for less at the time. 

[UndertheHalo]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Miguel Cabrera trade stalled when Wood, Howie, Mathis and Ervin Santana wasn’t enough and they also wanted Adenhart.  That’s how I remember it.   

Anyone else remember this being the case?   There was also an agreed upon package then they asked for more.

I don’t recall the whole package that they were talking about back then.  I remember Wood and Kendrick specifically.  But even if you threw in Santana and Mathis.  For Miguel Cabrera ? A hall of fame hitter in his prime.  Absolutely yes.  If there was bad faith negotiating then sure that’s a problem.  But I’m not sure there’s any way that we can really know whether that was the case or not. 

Anyway, hind sight is 20/20 of course.  But with Stoneman it wasn’t just that trade.  He didn’t do anything when they were close.  Over several seasons.  It didn’t work.  IMO it’s ok to regard that aspect of his tenure as a failure. 

 

Edited April 15, 2019 by UndertheHalo

[Mark PT]

On 4/14/2019 at 12:54 PM, Angelsjunky said:

Trades aren't necessarily "won" or "lost" because sometimes both teams "win" (or lose).

As for whether or not Simmons is and will be worth more, that remains to be seen. Right now, yes, Simmons has been significantly more valuable. But let's check back in five years. But it is hard to see this ever looking bad for the Angels, unless Newcomb becomes a CY winner.

Not sure why Newcomb was sent down - he had one bad start.

This is either a clear win for the Angels or potentially for both. The Angels got a young SS who bats 275-300 and is dead solid defensively. This solidifies this position for 10 years. I think he is the best SS the Angels have ever had. 

[T.G.]

The Angels won the trade!

Woo-Hoo!

Nicely done!

Wow!

Wait.. what exactly did they win?  A trophy? Cash prize?  Trip to the WS? What?

[Taylor]

8 minutes ago, True Grich said:

The Angels won the trade!

Woo-Hoo!

Nicely done!

Wow!

Wait.. what exactly did they win?  A trophy? Cash prize?  Trip to the WS? What?

They won more arguments on AW about whether they actually won.

[T.G.]

5 minutes ago, Taylor said:

They won more arguments on AW about whether they actually won.

Nice!

[Angel Oracle]

17 minutes ago, True Grich said:

The Angels won the trade!

Woo-Hoo!

Nicely done!

Wow!

Wait.. what exactly did they win?  A trophy? Cash prize?  Trip to the WS? What?

A patch

 

 

 

Incoming yk post

[Angel Oracle]

Simba is slumping worse than he ever has as a Halos player.   At least he had a hit yesterday, hope that gets him started. 

[Chuck]

1 hour ago, Angel Oracle said:

Simba is slumping worse than he ever has as a Halos player.   At least he had a hit yesterday, hope that gets him started. 

His approach at the plate has been really REALLY bad. Swinging at shit above his eyes and stuff out of the zone low and away. 

[Angel Oracle]

3 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

His approach at the plate has been really REALLY bad. Swinging at shit above his eyes and stuff out of the zone low and away. 

Too much pressure from not having Ohtani or Upton in the lineup?

[Chuck]

Just now, Angel Oracle said:

Too much pressure from not having Ohtani or Upton in the lineup?

Could be, but he needs to realize that taking a walk or simply getting a hit helps the team's chances more than trying to hit the 6-run home run.

[Stradling]

Simmons might be the only player, on the team, to regress in his approach at the plate. 

[T.G.]

Simmons was quoted in pre season as saying he wanted to up his power numbers....

[Angel Oracle]

He might want to rethink that, after seeing his numbers plummet for the first close to 3 weeks.

[T.G.]

2 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

He might want to rethink that, after seeing his numbers plummet for the first close to 3 weeks.

Ya think?