The International spending cap

[GrittyVeterans]

I'm not very familiar with the international rules when it comes to signing players so forgive me here. My question is how much longer are we going to be screwed over by the (disastrous) Baldoquin signing? Is it just this coming signing period that we can't sign anyone or do we still have another two years to go? I know the Dodgers don't give a shit about the luxury tax and have been signing players left and right despite being like a hundred million dollars over, but with Arte I doubt he wants to go over the lux tax for unproven commodities (which is a whole other discussion that is probably for a different thread)

 

Thanks in advance

Edited May 26, 2016 by GrittyVeterans

[arch stanton]

May I ask what makes the signing (disastrous)?

[Oz27]

1 hour ago, arch stanton said:

May I ask what makes the signing (disastrous)?

Every indication so far says he is really bad at baseball and his signing denied us the opportunity to sign other players while costing a heap of money. It sure isn't looking great.

[arch stanton]

And that's a (disaster)?

[Oz27]

10 minutes ago, arch stanton said:

And that's a (disaster)?

With or without your juvenile use of parentheses, yes.

[Angelsjunky]

Yeah, he's pretty disappointing so far and looking like a terrible gamble. I really don't get what Dipoto saw in Baldoquin. He's still only 22, though, so let's see how he does this year...if he can get healthy.

[Oz27]

4 hours ago, GrittyVeterans said:

I'm not very familiar with the international rules when it comes to signing players so forgive me here. My question is how much longer are we going to be screwed over by the (disastrous) Baldoquin signing? Is it just this coming signing period that we can't sign anyone or do we still have another two years to go? I know the Dodgers don't give a shit about the luxury tax and have been signing players left and right despite being like a hundred million dollars over, but with Arte I doubt he wants to go over the lux tax for unproven commodities (which is a whole other discussion that is probably for a different thread)

 

Thanks in advance

To answer your question, see this from MLBTR...

Because Baldoquin was subject to the international signing bonus, the Angels have now clearly shattered their international bonus pool. By adding Baldoquin, the Halos are subjecting themselves to a 100 percent luxury tax on any dollars spent over their $2.383MM bonus pool, and they will also be ineligible to sign any player for more than $300K in either of the next two international signing periods. They can, however, spend as aggressively as they wish for the remainder of this signing period, which runs through mid-June. At this point, because they’ll already have been hit with the max penalties, the only further penalties they will incur will be the 100 percent on any further dollars that are spent on international free agents.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/01/angels-to-sign-cuban-infielder-roberto-baldoquin-for-8mm-bonus.html

The "remainder of this signing period" reference is now out of date because this was written in 2014. The two periods it impacts us for are the 2015 and 2016 signing periods. From 2017 we will be back to normal.

Edited May 26, 2016 by Oz27
factual clarification

[DMVol]

I have thought for some time that we needed to look at the older, professional Cuban FA's, since they aren't subject to the international cap like the younger, amateur guys....Seems like a way to work around our situation--no farm, few realistic tradeable parts....But Arte has shut off the spicket....we are dumpster diving only.....

Edited May 26, 2016 by DMVol

[Inside Pitch]

3 minutes ago, DMVol said:

But Arte has shut off the spicket...

Racist

[IEAngelsfan]

2 hours ago, DMVol said:

I have thought for some time that we needed to look at the older, professional Cuban FA's, since they aren't subject to the international cap like the younger, amateur guys....Seems like a way to work around our situation--no farm, few realistic tradeable parts....But Arte has shut off the spicket....we are dumpster diving only.....

I highly doubt it......Mexicans don't get along with Cubans.

[Jeff Fletcher]

July 2, 2017 the Angels will no longer be under the spending restrictions. 

[tdawg87]

And they'll still not spend as much as the 29 other teams. 

[Guest]

Does anyone remember that cringe worthy highlight reel Baldoquin put out before he signed with the Angels? That was the shittiest video I've ever seen. Dipoto is truly a hack. 

[Angel Oracle]

I wouldn't go as far as to call Dipoto a hack.   But that Baldoquin video was indeed nothing extra.