Anyone think that maybe Eppler is working on another big trade?

[beatlesrule]

Okay then if most of our players absolute garbage, the team should just trade Trout and start over.  At least it would give them an identity.  From what I can gather from this board, Trout, Calhoun, Richards, Heaney, Simmons and maybe Skaggs are the only good players the Angels have.  That leaves the majority of the players average to terrible.  This team needs a 3rd baseman, a 2nd baseman, a LF, and a better bullpen.  In order for that to happen, the owner would need to spend over the luxury tax or trades would need to happen.  So far, Arte is very reluctant to go over and Eppler can't trade anyone because most of our players are no good.  Seems like the Angels will be finishing in 3rd or 4th next year.

[Oz27]

"How about Heaney, Santiago, Cowart and Kubitza for Machado or Nolan Arenado or maybe a stud OF?"

 

Hahahahahaha.

 

How about Featherston, Gentry, a pint of Jorge Fabregas' blood and a signed Robb Quinlan hat for Bryce Harper?

[floplag]

nope, if he couldnt get  it done when everyone was there why would i think he would now 

[NrM]

Okay then if most of our players absolute garbage, the team should just trade Trout and start over.  At least it would give them an identity.  From what I can gather from this board, Trout, Calhoun, Richards, Heaney, Simmons and maybe Skaggs are the only good players the Angels have.  That leaves the majority of the players average to terrible.  This team needs a 3rd baseman, a 2nd baseman, a LF, and a better bullpen.  In order for that to happen, the owner would need to spend over the luxury tax or trades would need to happen.  So far, Arte is very reluctant to go over and Eppler can't trade anyone because most of our players are no good.  Seems like the Angels will be finishing in 3rd or 4th next year.

Nah Arte just needs to spend 50+ million this off season..

problems solved.

[tennischmp]

Okay then if most of our players absolute garbage, the team should just trade Trout and start over.  At least it would give them an identity.  From what I can gather from this board, Trout, Calhoun, Richards, Heaney, Simmons and maybe Skaggs are the only good players the Angels have.  That leaves the majority of the players average to terrible.  This team needs a 3rd baseman, a 2nd baseman, a LF, and a better bullpen.  In order for that to happen, the owner would need to spend over the luxury tax or trades would need to happen.  So far, Arte is very reluctant to go over and Eppler can't trade anyone because most of our players are no good.  Seems like the Angels will be finishing in 3rd or 4th next year.

Well yea that's about right. After Eppler gutted the farm on Simmons, the only option is for Arte to spend money. 

Edited December 10, 2015 by tennischmp

[Stradling]

When you trade two pitchers and that equals gutting the farm system you were probably left with a pretty shitty farm system.

[ten ocho recon scout]

It definetely seems like the angels are trying to shed payroll to make a run at one of the big FAs. So a trade thats "big news" might not be in play, but a salary dump might.

Only problem i have with it is sont wait too long to trade...market might dry up. Sign whatever big name you want now and try to cut cost after

[beatlesrule]

It's been all doom and gloom here the last couple of days.  If Arte really doesn't want to go over the luxury tax and the Angels don't have anyone good to trade, they sure as hell aren't making the playoffs in 2016.

[OregonLAA]

How was Simmons not a need? We had 1 year of Aybar left who wasn't sticking around and there

are zero free agent shortstops next year worth a damn. Quit saying that

[beatlesrule]

How was Simmons not a need? We had 1 year of Aybar left who wasn't sticking around and there

are zero free agent shortstops next year worth a damn. Quit saying that

 

I'd let that go if I were you.  Some here are adamant that Aybar was fine and was going to re-sign for cheap.  They ignore that Simmons compares to The Wizard himself.  I love the trade but, like most trades, there will always be people with differing opinions.  Funny thing is Aybar drove pretty much all of us crazy and we got a 25 year old upgrade to take his place and people act like we traded away Trout for Jane Fonda.

[Stradling]

How was Simmons not a need? We had 1 year of Aybar left who wasn't sticking around and there

are zero free agent shortstops next year worth a damn. Quit saying that

I'm not sure if you want to hear this or not, but you and I agree on this. Sorry.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

The Angels have 8 potential SP so why not use that surplus to get some players this team needs?

 

Because we can't count on Weaver or Wilson, Santiago is inconsistent, and apart from Richards the rest are unproven.

Edited December 10, 2015 by Vegas Halo Fan

[NrM]

How was Simmons not a need? We had 1 year of Aybar left who wasn't sticking around and there

are zero free agent shortstops next year worth a damn. Quit saying that

 

I guess I'll get back to you when Simmons is hitting leadoff with a .300 OBP and Newcomb is the Braves number 2 starter by the allstar break.

[seenoevil]

I like Simmons, but come on Billy, step your game up!

[Reveille1984]

It's not that Simmons wasn't a need for the more distant future, but instead that there are more urgent needs than blowing our very limited prospect load for a position we were already set for in 2016.  If we sign somebody worthwhile and go over the luxury tax for LF then the Simmons trade looks a lot better and nobody will give a crap. if we sign a couple of washed up hasbeens to create a shitty platoon situation then what was the point.

[nikkachez]

I do, and I'm thinking it's still for a third baseman or second baseman. I think we'll see a trade before any free agent signings. 

[OregonLAA]

I'm not sure if you want to hear this or not, but you and I agree on this. Sorry.

Lol I feel like I agree with you more often than not actually

[beatlesrule]

Well, I was right about the trade but I'd hardly call it big. Escobar is an upgrade but we still need a LF. Is another trade for Cargo or Blackmon in the works? Someone else? Just sign Upton? Remember, players are more important than money so use our excess pitching to upgrade elsewhere?

Edited December 12, 2015 by beatlesrule

[NorCal Halo]

Houston was dangling George Springer.  I don't think they would trade directly with us, but I could see a three-team deal where Santiago goes to somewhere, who sends someone to Houston, and we get Springer. 

Edited December 12, 2015 by NorCal Halo

[GrittyVeterans]

Houston was dangling George Springer.  I don't think they would trade directly with us, but I could see a three-team deal where Santiago goes to somewhere, who sends someone to Houston, and we get Springer. 

 

Springer has put up star numbers when healthy. No shot we have the assets to acquire him especially when you consider Houston is in our division

[totdprods]

Houston was dangling George Springer. I don't think they would trade directly with us, but I could see a three-team deal where Santiago goes to somewhere, who sends someone to Houston, and we get Springer.

.....

Anyone who gets Springer is going to keep Springer.

[NorCal Halo]

How about Santiago to Nationals, Zimmerman to Astros, and Springer to Halos?

[Angel Oracle]

I'm not a fan of trading young cost controlled players with excellent upside who have shown flashes at the MLB level like Heaney and Skaggs have.

[tdawg87]

How about Santiago to Nationals, Zimmerman to Astros, and Springer to Halos?

 

You talking about Ryan Zimmerman?

 

This trade is so in favor of the Angels I'm pretty sure it would get shot down by the commissioner.

[Glen]

You talking about Ryan Zimmerman?

 

This trade is so in favor of the Angels I'm pretty sure it would get shot down by the commissioner.

 

 

For the Nationals, it would be trading Zimmerman for Santiago.  That's ridiculous.