Why Germany just closed its borders to refugees

[gotbeer]

Ban the Intolerant and Anti-Islamic event of Oktoberfest

 

https://www.change.org/p/city-of-munich-ban-the-intolerant-and-anti-islamic-event-of-oktoberfest

 

Is that real?  Is pissing off a bunch of drunk Germans really the way to go?

[Lhalo]

It's tongue in cheek and it's pretty damn funny.

[Lhalo]

For now.

[wopphil]

And my final thought is:

My God, I f*cking love Mexicans.

They may immigrate illegally in crazy numbers, they may breed like brood sows, but they're pretty damn good people. Sure the second and third generations here may have issues with gangs, but that's nada compared to what Europe deals with.

Mexicans brought us one of the worlds greatest cuisines, horny sexy women, getting drunk in parks on Sunday afternoons, tamales at Christmas time, sticking by your family (even if your theo touched you inappropriately when you were 9).

I'll take a Mexican over an Iraqi or a Syrian or an Eritrean anyday and twice on Sunday afternoon with al pastor.

Plus without Mexicans, we'd have no need for those water rescue people who save Mexicans from flooded storm water channels.

[juansavage1]

Thinking about it further.

How anyone thinks that taking millions of people from the worlds most conservative, restrictive and unaccepting culture and moving them to the worlds most liberal, tolerant and accepting cultures and not thinking that all f*cking hell is going to break lose is beyond me.

Despite Europe's general despise for the hate and racism that caused WWII, the rise of the "racist" right in Europe again is inevitable.

Actually, if you read news from Europe, you'd know that anti-Semitism is mostly from the "liberals" in Europe and that they've allied themselves with the Muslims against conservatives. 

 

This is similar to the mistake people make about Hitler. Hitler ran against the conservative parties in Germany. 

 

Most of the people also call the Muslims that cause trouble "radicals" not "conservatives."

Edited September 17, 2015 by Juan Savage

[Blarg]

Rabble rabble rabble !!!! But seriously. The Arab response has been shameful as always, they've treated the Palestinians seeking refuge with much the same ambivalence for the last 60 years. The gulf states and Saudi Arabia particularly have failed when it comes to helping their Arab brothers. It's especially unfortunate that they have greatest means to provide aid. To be fair, Jordan has taken many Syrian refugees in.

 

Maybe the Palestinians should take a close look at themselves and answer the question as to why nobody wants them in their country. The shame is not on the unwilling hosts.

[Glen]

And my final thought is:

My God, I f*cking love Mexicans.

They may immigrate illegally in crazy numbers, they may breed like brood sows, but they're pretty damn good people. Sure the second and third generations here may have issues with gangs, but that's nada compared to what Europe deals with.

Mexicans brought us one of the worlds greatest cuisines, horny sexy women, getting drunk in parks on Sunday afternoons, tamales at Christmas time, sticking by your family (even if your theo touched you inappropriately when you were 9).

I'll take a Mexican over an Iraqi or a Syrian or an Eritrean anyday and twice on Sunday afternoon with al pastor.

They're also giving us better grocery stores. I'll take an El Super over any American store every day.

[juansavage1]

Maybe the Palestinians should take a close look at themselves and answer the question as to why nobody wants them in their country. The shame is not on the unwilling hosts.

Part of it is that the other Muslim countries use Palestinians to bother Israel. Part of it is that other Arabs look down on them. Of course, if each Muslim country would have accepted a part of the Palestinian population (maybe with a million dollars attached to each one from the UN), we wouldn't have any problems in that area. 

[juansavage1]

They're also giving us better grocery stores. I'll take an El Super over any American store every day.

Not true. American grocery stores are much less stressful. I also don't care about buying insurance and jewelry along with my milk. I'm upset that they're replacing the Ralphs in my city with a Super. 

[juansavage1]

Oh, if you followed me on Twitter you'd know I'm in Europe often.

And knock your liberals against Jews shit off. You may be able to scare dumb American zionists into believing that crap, but the liberals in Europe are generally blasé about religion, it's Muslims and neo-nazis that are against the Jews in Europe.

Does the left in Europe generally support Israel or blame them for the region's problems? 

 

Who do the Muslims in Europe vote for? 

 

Who speaks out against "Islamophobia" and other criticism of Muslim culture in Europe, as well as encourage Muslim immigration? 

[Glen]

Ever notice Juan is always talking about "the left?"

[juansavage1]

Ever notice Juan is always talking about "the left?"

Excuse me. Who was talking about the "far right" and conservatism in Europe? 

 

It's simplistic to use far right in the same sentence with conservative. It confuses people. What is the "far right" stance on economic freedom and social issues? They're all over the place. 

 

Far right parties have in common nationalism and racialism. That's about it. If whoever on this forum thinks that Muslims shouldn't be on the continent because of their views, then they're nationalists and racialists or at least culturalists too.

 

The question is whether I should correct these errors and add this nuance or just let the bullcrap flow uninterrupted. 

[Blarg]

Yes, you can easily interject far right with conservative political groups and be incorrect in the big picture but your depiction of the left was simply wrong in any context.

Please try and not answer this post with six questions that are unrelated to each other or the topic.

[juansavage1]

Yes, you can easily interject far right with conservative political groups and be incorrect in the big picture but your depiction of the left was simply wrong in any context.

Please try and not answer this post with six questions that are unrelated to each other or the topic.

Wrong in what way? Please pull up an article about Jewish life or Israel in a mainstream left newspaper like the Guardian and read the comments. It's also true that the left in Europe has allied itself with the Islamic population against mainstream conservatives. 

 

I wouldn't use the term "right" to describe what are nationalist and racist groups, if by right you mean "not left" or conservative. Racism and anti-immigrant feeling does not touch upon the core of conservative values economically or socially. You know that it was the left (Shaw, H.G. Wells, American progressives) who were threatened by racial mixing and that it wasn't until the left saw them as oppressed foot soldiers for their cause that they changed their mind. 

 

This is all true and you can look it up. 

[gotbeer]

Germany in a state of SIEGE: Merkel was cheered when she opened the floodgates to migrants. Now, with gangs of men roaming the streets and young German women being told to cover up, the mood's changing

Ok, first, it's a daily mail article.  So might not be the most honest.  

 

But where there is smoke, there usually is fire.  

[Crampknees]

This is what happens when you let someone named Merkel run things. 

 

They are finding out that a large % of them are not even from Syria. 

[Tank]

This is a surprise? Muslims didn't integrate before and the f*cking Germans, ashamed still because of the holocaust, open their arms and let the trash in. I honestly don't know what these people expected.

And you can't complain or be against it. If you do you're as bad as the nazis.

WWIII, the Civilzed World against Islam, will start in Europe within the next decade.

 

i think the lack of integration by the refugees doesn't get enough attention.

 

if you look at what's happening in europe, you see exactly this with the muslims that have moved in. they don't want to assimilate; they want the host country to change to their way of thinking or else.