Per MLBTR: Cubs have reached out to Angels for pitching help

[Stradling]

Corona stopped watching Santiago after his first 7 starts last year, or else he wouldn't call him Blantiago.

[TheHeathen]

Don't feed the troll.

[Ocangelfan]

i guess it will go back to what people think santiago is.    i know this year for me he is the most trustworthy pitcher getting a start behind richards and even he has been suspect, but grinding things out like a wouldbe ace should.   a whole year of this pitching should change some minds for him and if not we keep rolling with him...its going to be hard to knock him off the rotation.  prospects are prospects...it took richards a while to get the hang of it.

 

maybe he is Esantana to everyone else.

 

i would prefer cj for ethier

[Mark68]

Santana is a little better than a league average starter. The Cubs would want more.

[Ocangelfan]

i understand that...i am thinking that is what other people are thinking of santiago,,,not me.

[Mile High Dreams]

I maintain that Richards is our most valuable tradeable asset, and should be moved if the right deal was available. If you could get two nice, major league ready pieces for him (say, two of Soler, Russell or Schwarber), you pull the trigger.

Wopphil you sound more like cubsphil

[arch stanton]

If the Cubs are shopping for a starting pitcher it means they think they can win this year with the team on the field. If they want a proven major league starting pitcher they have to pay a proven major league starting pitcher price.

[Corona]

Corona stopped watching Santiago after his first 7 starts last year, or else he wouldn't call him Blantiago.

He's been good this year but still doesn't have a whole lot of value. He can't go deep into games and isnt exactly a work horse. Not to mention he's Arb eligible next year and a FA in 2018. Why the hell would the Cubs move a club controlled top prospect for him? Like I said Santiago and newcomb for schwarber MIGHT get the Cubs listening. If the Cubs move schwarber it'll be for someone like sale or hamels.

The dodgers need another starter. They should just trade Turner to the mets for snydergaard or to the Astros for Appel.

Edited June 27, 2015 by Corona

[Second Base]

This might anger some folks, but personally, I'd do Newcomb-Schwarber straight swap and it might work for both teams.

The Cubs need high-end pitching and you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone more high end than Newcomb. The Angels need a LF/DH that hits left-handed and is inexpensive.

I wouldn't blame either team for passing in the deal, but there certainly seems to be a fit.

[Stradling]

He's been good this year but still doesn't have a whole lot of value. He can't go deep into games and isnt exactly a work horse. Not to mention he's Arb eligible next year and a FA in 2018. Why the hell would the Cubs move a club controlled top prospect for him? Like I said Santiago and newcomb for schwarber MIGHT get the Cubs listening. If the Cubs move schwarber it'll be for someone like sale or hamels.

The dodgers need another starter. They should just trade Turner to the mets for snydergaard or to the Astros for Appel.

I have no idea what the value of Schwarber is, I don't watch a ton of national league baseball. My point was if you still think Santiago is similar to Blanton then you watch the Angels as often as I watch National League baseball. Santiago is top ten in ERA in the AL. He's a heck of a pitcher, but like you said he struggles to go deep into games. So I guess you are kind of right, Santiago and Blanton both don't go deep into games. The difference is when Blanton is done with his five innings he has given up 5-7 runs. Santiago at the end of his six innings gives up around 2 or 3.

[Ocangelfan]

i would give up newcomb for schwarber...if cubs looking to fortify their rotation "this year" then might not be enough.   they might need him to go get hammels if that is what they are looking for.

 

i would not give both santiago and newcomb though unless they were kicking more into it.

[Hollyw00d]

Now might be a good time to trade for Soler. It would be a good buy low opportunity

[SoWhat]

Now might be a good time to trade for Soler. It would be a good buy low opportunity

I'd love to have Soler, but I highly doubt the Cubs would trade him with his stock being this low.

[Second Base]

I'd give up more for Jorge Soler than I would for Kyle Schwarber.  I mean that.  He's going to be a superstar. 

[Mark68]

This might anger some folks, but personally, I'd do Newcomb-Schwarber straight swap and it might work for both teams.

The Cubs need high-end pitching and you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone more high end than Newcomb. The Angels need a LF/DH that hits left-handed and is inexpensive.

I wouldn't blame either team for passing in the deal, but there certainly seems to be a fit.

I think the Cubs are looking for more immediate help.

[Corona]

I have no idea what the value of Schwarber is, I don't watch a ton of national league baseball. My point was if you still think Santiago is similar to Blanton then you watch the Angels as often as I watch National League baseball. Santiago is top ten in ERA in the AL. He's a heck of a pitcher, but like you said he struggles to go deep into games. So I guess you are kind of right, Santiago and Blanton both don't go deep into games. The difference is when Blanton is done with his five innings he has given up 5-7 runs. Santiago at the end of his six innings gives up around 2 or 3.

I was joking I just like to call him blantiago. But Blanton is actually doing well this year. Maybe the royals can trade him for a top prospect.

[Angel Oracle]

Santiago has always had this potential, with his stuff and delivery.

Be very leery before trading him away.

His innings pitched is also increasing.

[Broad Street]

Man that Schwarber kid is good.

[zenmaster]

Man that Schwarber kid is good.

 

Just think, a month ago we could have done a Joyce for Schwarber straight up deal! (If Dipoto had listened to people here)

[nate]

We finally amassed some pitching depth.  I would be really disappointed if we traded it away.

[Glen]

We finally amassed some pitching depth. I would be really disappointed if we traded it away.

If we want a decent bat we'll have to part with some pitching.

[Chuck]

We finally amassed some pitching depth.  I would be really disappointed if we traded it away.

you have to deal from your strengths to improve your weaknesses. 

[TroutField]

We finally amassed some pitching depth. I would be really disappointed if we traded it away.

That's the thing they built the extreme depth we have because young cost controlled pitching is currency now a days. We have the depth to trade 1 major league arm and a prospect or 2 not named Newcomb or Heaney. (And preferably not Ellis unless it's a good young bat coming back)

[Angel Oracle]

The next step for the org is to start building some position players depth in the org.

Drafting Ward and Jones with the first two draft picks was a start in the right direction.

[ukyah]

i don't like baez. i think he's on the market because theo is trying to sell high on this kid before he tanks.

 

the idea of trading heaney for him or richards in some weird combination would confirm that the angels are in the stone age. hopefully, we've got some people who know their shit in some capacity of decision making up their on angel high.

 

edit: also, if it helped facilitate a deal, i'd include kubitza who has good prospect value. i don't like long swings, and i think he's a future bust as a starter. some can make it work, but even those who do tend to have a bad "eye" at the plate. i'll take the compact approach every single time.

Edited July 22, 2015 by ukyah