Marlins and Angels will match up sooner or later

[Tyler]

Gonna keep it short and sweet, but my gut tells me we're a pretty good match with Miami come trade deadline time, if not sooner. I'm thinking Borenstein, Maronde, and Yarbrough for Cishek. Get it done Jerry.

[tdawg87]

That is way too much to give up for a reliever. Don't care how good he is.

[Tyler]

I disagree. Three more arb years, plus the position we're in, plus those players aren't important to the Angels future outside of being trade bait. Sorry.

[Season Over]

[Mathis joke]

[SoWhat]

Dipoto should be fired if he makes that trade

Edited March 30, 2014 by SoWhat

[jshep]

That would be laughably bad for the Angels.

[Docwaukee]

I would be really mad if this trade happened. 

 

DDLR had a similar year in 2013 to what cishek did in 2012. 

 

You could be on the wrong side of millions of dollars in major league value if one of those players become a major league player and Maronde is already likely going to be. 

 

With pen volatility being what it is, you likely get 1.5 WAR the three seasons of control from him and he's already at a salary of 3.8mil. 

 

Shane - you've been right about some stuff that no one else bought into at first, but I'm gonna disagree with this big time. 

[Tyler]

Thanks for noticing doc. Its ok to disagree on some topics lol

However, this one I feel pretty strongly about.. more so than Trumbo to the Dbacks that I posted early in the season last year.

This trade is of expendables, as it should always be when making a trade, for a position of need. This trade just makes too much sense. Or I guess I should trade target, the package could be up to Dipoto. I just feel Borenstein and Yarbrough match up with Miami cause of Jones and Furcal.

Also, I'm not a fan of war being tied in to predicting a future product. 

Edited March 30, 2014 by Shane

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

Shane on you.

[Tyler]

Wow, ill clean that post up once I get back to my laptop. Ha

[Chuck]

We already have in house talent for future relievers to utilize at the backend of ball games.

RJ Alvarez and Michael Morin. And if Sappington doesn't develop a good or workable change, him too.

[Tyler]

Yeah, but it's easier to grow into a role than assume a position. They (Morin and Alvarez) will be needed for depth.

[Docwaukee]

Thanks for noticing doc. Its ok to disagree on some topics lol

However, this one I feel pretty strongly about.. more so than trumbo to the dbacks that I posted early in the season last year.

This trade is of expendables, as it should always be when making a trade, for a position of need. This trade just makes too much sense. Or I guess I should trade target, the package could be up to Dipoto. I just feel Bronstein and Yarbrough match up with Miami cause of Jones and Furcal.

Also, I'm not a fan of war being tied in to a future product.

While I don't think WAR is great for assessing a future product, it does give some insight.  But I agree that it's also contingent of those guys actually becoming a part of the team or having a place. 

 

The Yarborough inclusion I get.  Blocked by Howie, Green, Lindsey. 

The Borenstein one is problematic.  Mostly because of what we will know about him by the deadline.  He's either going to be one of the best in the system or AA is going to thrash him.  If he's putting up equivalent number to last year (ie adjusted for that park), then he's not as expendable considering that you can always find a place for a middle of the order bat and even with Cron, the Halos can always use another bat for the DH spot. And he will be worth a lot more.  

Maronde could get to a point soon where he's providing similar value or perhaps slightly less by himself. 

 

It's just too much.  I could see a Yarborough and another low level prospect. 

[Tyler]

My thing with Borenstein is... Cron, Pujols, Calhoun, Trout, Hamilton... filling 1B or a CO is not difficult. Borenstein is just an average fielder... send them to Miami and we won't have to worry about them panning out. Also, I may be in the minority, but I don't think Borenstein's league-wide value grows any more.. gotta capitalize. 

[YouthofToday]

Saves are sexy. Trading for saves is even sexier.

[Tyler]

That's cute.

[Tyler]

http://www.fishstripes.com/2013/10/4/4802770/steve-cishek-rumors-trade-miami-marlins-offense

 

For those who are curious to why Miami may be interested.

[Docwaukee]

Saves are sexy. Trading for saves is even sexier.

that's the kind of stuff that makes you annoying sometimes. 

 

contribute to the discussion thoughtfully if you can.

 

maybe it's just that you can't.

[YouthofToday]

http://www.fishstripes.com/2013/10/4/4802770/steve-cishek-rumors-trade-miami-marlins-offense

For those who are curious to why Miami may be interested.

The gist of the article was for offensive help in 2014. Not for prospects...

[nando714]

Gincarlo or bust

[laagamer]

Seriously?

 

Um....no

[Tyler]

I like how this thread is going. Eerily similar.. http://www.angelswin-forum.com/forums/topic/1748-ian-kennedy-a-prime-trade-candidate/

 

This time, I'm sticking to my guns, and not listening to hubs.

 

PS Everyone in that proposal was traded. Also, Eaton. Good call YoT.

 

[Llewyn Davis]

That's a massive overpay. I agree that the Marlins would make a good trading partner, though. They need a second baseman, and we have a glut of them. 

[GoodTimesGoneBad]

How about Jacob Turner?

[Vegas Halo Fan]

[Mathis joke]

 

When I saw the headline, I envisioned something about a Jeff Mathis Tribute Night.