Josh Johnson

[Angel_in_Texas]

Is it worth taking a flier on him if he cost 8 mil for 1yr?

[AngelsFaninGA]

Johnson's ERA the last 3 years:

 

2011: 1.64

2012: 3.81

2013: 6.20

 

Sounds like a perfect Angels signing. 

[Angel_in_Texas]

Lol. He had surgery to remove bone spurs. That could be a reason for his failed season. Might be worth taking a flier on.

[Angel_in_Texas]

Wouldn't cost a draft pick

[Blarg]

You don't pay $8 million for a guy who's arm fell off three years ago, then last year hit the floor again.

[jshep]

If we had real pitching depth, I wouldn't mind taking a flier with the thought being that he slots into the back of the rotation, and if he finds some semblance of the Josh Johnson of old, neat. If not, move on.

 

But considering how weak the team is in that department right now, and that's not likely to be a problem that gets significantly better over the course of the offseason, I don't know.

[fan_since79]

He'd probably get hurt in spring training and never throw a pitch for us.

[Troll Daddy]

Angels coaches can fix him.

Do it!

[Angel_in_Texas]

I hear ya, but if we have a chance to get a pitcher with Ace type stuff when healthy for 1yr at 8 mil I think you have to at least look at. The big question is "if healthy".

[Chimi]

The guy has been injured most if his career. In 8 seasons, he's only made it to 30 games three times. He's had to be shut down by his team 3 of the last 4 seasons..

[Angel_in_Texas]

Worse case we eat 8 mil for 1yr. Best case he is the Josh Johnson of old and helps us make a playoff run

[Blarg]

$8 million is stupid money for this guy.

[JAHV76]

For $8M they should adding two BP arms.

[Chimi]

I was going to say, you can get two bullpen guys for $8 rather than on a guy that will most definitely have to be shut down at some point next year.

[nando714]

Let Butcher work with him

[SoWhat]

No pitching depth

Mike Butcher

Sign him now!

[xboom28x]

I wouldn't give him anything more than a minor league contract with invite to ST

[Stradling]

I'd be more prone to giving him an incentive laden deal that pays him very well if he regains his form. If he doesn't regain his form he is paid $4-$5 million.

[stormngt]

a lot of the conversation on here is beginning to sound like rival political parties during a campaign.  All we hear is how one possible solution is no good, but we never hear how we can make things better.

 

I don't know if Johnson is the solution or not or if he is worth a gamble.  I do know we need to improve starting pitching first and then the bull pen.  That means we need to find solutions someplace.  Maybe its worth a look at Johnson?

[gotbeer]

Minor league deal with incentives.  

[xboom28x]

I would prefer a solid pen over a solid rotation. I think you can repair a bullpen quicker than a rotation.

 

For instance, I would spend 8-15M on the bullpen. 3-5M on the rotation. Weaver, Wilson, Richards, Williams, (insert 3-5M guy here) would be fine with me as long as bullpen is drastically improved.

[HaloMilliVanilli]

I suggested signing Francisco Liriano last winter on the cheap and hope for a rebound and was soundly boo'ed.  If the guaranteed investment is small, I'd be on board signing Josh Johnson.  But, to be clear, I would establish a 5-man rotation that DID NOT include him and let him rehab without expectations.  Let someone else pay $5-8 million guaranteed, if that type of money can even be had.

[Docwaukee]

I'd take him on an incentive based deal as long as it was for the 5th spot in competition with Richards.  Still need two other starters.  I tend to agree the money is better spend improving the pen. Although, I like the type of deal that Liriano got in Pittsburgh.  A 1yr deal with a vesting option for the second.  So if he finds his form you get him for the next year as well.  1 mil in the first year and 6 in the second year based on the number of starts he makes. 

[Season Over]

Anyone think we should take a flier on that Madson guy?

[tennischmp]

a lot of the conversation on here is beginning to sound like rival political parties during a campaign.  All we hear is how one possible solution is no good, but we never hear how we can make things better.

 

I don't know if Johnson is the solution or not or if he is worth a gamble.  I do know we need to improve starting pitching first and then the bull pen.  That means we need to find solutions someplace.  Maybe its worth a look at Johnson?

How about go after Tanaka but no one has mentioned that before so maybe something to think about instead of Josh Johnson

Edited October 15, 2013 by tennischmp