Any true Angel fan should be rooting for L's

[YouthofToday]

A buddy of mine is a diehard Red Sox fan. It was quite strange to find myself rooting for Rays and watching him root for the Angels of late.

Lets go Rays! Lets go Brewers! Lets go Rays! Lets go Rangers! Lets go Twins!

Thankfully 18/31 games left are against the Rangers, As and Rays. Should definitely help us improve our draft status for the 2014 Rule 4.

[Docwaukee]

At this point, I am rooting for individual players in the hopes that they prove their worth. 

 

Wins and losses are irrelevant. 

 

As a corollary, reviewing previous drafts shows that impact players have been picked anywhere from 1-10 in the draft over the last 10 years without a real pattern.  So anywhere in the top ten is fine by me. 

[DEATHRACERCHEVY]

A buddy of mine is a diehard Red Sox fan. It was quite strange to find myself rooting for Rays and watching him root for the Angels of late.

Lets go Rays! Lets go Brewers! Lets go Rays! Lets go Rangers! Lets go Twins!

Thankfully 18/31 games left are against the Rangers, As and Rays. Should definitely help us improve our draft status for the 2014 Rule 4.

This is exactly what was going on when I saw the schedule vs Tampa. I couldn't stop wearing my angels stuff everywhere in hopes they could win the games against Tampa. At this point I am not essentially rooting for the losses, but I don't think they should go out of their way to win at this point. I mean there are only so many games left before we are mathematically eliminated anyway. At least there can be a silver lining in the draft pick.

[ELEVEN]

A buddy of mine is a diehard Red Sox fan. It was quite strange to find myself rooting for Rays and watching him root for the Angels of late.

Lets go Rays! Lets go Brewers! Lets go Rays! Lets go Rangers! Lets go Twins!

Thankfully 18/31 games left are against the Rangers, As and Rays. Should definitely help us improve our draft status for the 2014 Rule 4.

Hopefully Jerry is as prepared for the Rule 4 Draft as he is for the Rule 5.

Edited August 29, 2013 by ELEVEN

[Jay]

Ay manager who intentionally tanks games for any reason should be banned from baseball.

[YouthofToday]

Ay manager who intentionally tanks games for any reason should be banned from baseball.

I'm not advocating for openly tanking games. I'm asking for us to play kids for "player development" reasons...

[arch stanton]

Getting high draft picks is clearly the way to go. Remember that great Pirates-Royals World Series a few years back? 

 

Only losing losers hope for losses. Ever.

[stormngt]

Strongly disagree there. Also, confidence is a false notion. That's like saying momentum will carry over the offseason - there is no such thing as that.

 

Have you ever played sports?

 

Do you know anything about sports?

 

I am not trying to be condescending but if you know anything about sports you would know 

 

CONFIDENCE IS EVERYTHING!  To call it a false nation maybe the most moronic thing ever stated on this board.  No it has to be the most moronic thing ever stated on this board.

[Stradling]

Happens every year with Scioscia at the helm. He runs his Spring Training so lackadaisical compared to other teams. I see other teams running harder drills than the Angels every year at Spring Training. Most of the Angels drills are lazy ground balls, and light jogging. For example, this year I saw the Red Sox at Spring Training in Florida...those guys drill hard, run sprints, and are just generally more focused/in shape than the Angels players. It's never going to change with Mike Scioscia as our manager.

VegasMike, how have you been? Have you had any big wins lately?

[stormngt]

Hitting streaks and winning streaks are random statistical variations that occur in a players performance. Confidence has nothing to do with it. It's called regression to the mean. If a player is a lifetime .260/.330/.440 hitter, but he hits .330/.390/.540 one month, then .170/.260/.350 the next month, do you really think it has anything to do with confidence? It doesn't. It's basic statistics.

 

 

You don't have to answer me.  NO YOU NEVER PLAYED SPORTS AND YOU NO NOTHING ABOUT SPORTS!

[Stradling]

Getting high draft picks is clearly the way to go. Remember that great Pirates-Royals World Series a few years back?

Only losing losers hope for losses. Ever.

This is perfect, I wouldn't change a thing. I might add the F word a few times in your rant about losing, then when I read it I would be thinking of Dennis Farina's voice saying it.

[stormngt]

I believe that losing on purpose causes more detriment to a team than the draft position they gain from it.

 

- The FO needs to evaluate their players til the end so they accurately make the correct moves in the off-season.

 

- Baseball is a game of learning and adjustments. The only way a player can improve is to constantly work on their craft.

 

- Only a fraction of the population has the ability to play professional sports. Then add that those professionals will only play 10-15 years of their life playing at that level. So I find it wrong that a coach or organization tells them to waste that finite opportunity to throw away games.

 

- MLB players made it to the pros because they are competitive by nature. I'm not even sure if a player can turn that edge off because a coach/organization tells them to.

 

- Losing games on purpose devalues the roster. Not all players are playing with guaranteed contracts. They are showcasing their talent in case they are not retained by the club. You also have players in their arbitration years in which raises look at their personal stats. The team will also compromise the trade value of their players.

 

- MLB needs teams to play at their fullest for the integrity of the sport. There are many teams still fighting for a playoff spot in which the Angels play part in being spoilers. I take enjoyment knowing that the Angels may play spoilers to a team I can't stand. I also don't want to see other teams mail it in when the Angels are the one's competing for a playoff berth.

 

I don't mind if the Angels lose because they are trying something different on the field. The team needs to find other methods to improve the team they currently have on the roster. Obviously the philosophy needs to be tweaked going into next year.

 

Finally, I hate losing.

 

Well said!!!!

 

[Stradling]

Ay manager who intentionally tanks games for any reason should be banned from baseball.

That would be worse than steroid use and I agree.

[FireThemAll]

You don't have to answer me.  NO YOU NEVER PLAYED SPORTS AND YOU NO NOTHING ABOUT SPORTS!

 

You are annoying.

[stormngt]

Getting high draft picks is clearly the way to go. Remember that great Pirates-Royals World Series a few years back? 

 

Only losing losers hope for losses. Ever.

 

Great Quote!

[Angels Never Die]

If we win on the merits of our young guys, then great. I'm not really rooting for them to lose, but at the end of the season, I hope we have the best draft position possible because that's a greater asset than meaningless wins. Ultimately, what's really important is that our draft pick is at least in the protected range.

[arch stanton]

This is perfect, I wouldn't change a thing. I might add the F word a few times in your rant about losing, then when I read it I would be thinking of Dennis Farina's voice saying it.

My 11 year old daughter has asked me to refrain from using the F word so I'm doing my best, even in writing.

[Stradling]

Did you tell her to chill the F out?

[arch stanton]

I'm gonna concede this one and hope she doesn't ask me to quit drinking.

[tdawg87]

Getting high draft picks is clearly the way to go. Remember that great Pirates-Royals World Series a few years back? 

 

Only losing losers hope for losses. Ever.

 

I agree with the overall sentiment, but you can't compare teams like the Royals and Pirates to the Angels and their situation. They have an owner who is willing to spend money and do what it takes to field a championship team, the Pirates and Royals do not. Those teams HAVE to rely on draft picks and young, cost controlled talent to compete. The Angels have the luxury of being able to use both.

 

Having high draft picks and re-stocking the farm system is never a bad thing.

[mtangelsfan]

Of course not tdawg, but that is a long way from pulling for your team to actually lose.

[floplag]

winning or losing is one thing, playing without caring or a complete lack of balls is something i cant stomach.
i could live with losses, if it was a good effort, wouldnt like it, but i could handle it... what i see in this team this year is anything but and a lot of missing tecticles and intenstinal fortitude.

[Angels Never Die]

Of course not tdawg, but that is a long way from pulling for your team to actually lose.

 

Personally I don't see what the big deal is, it's obviously a case of specific circumstances. Sure, it would be odd if they were doing that when we were actually in the playoff hunt and weren't in desperate need of improving our farm system, but that's not the case. You may see it as just rooting for losses, but others may see it as rooting for something meaningful since the playoffs are out of the picture, and it's hard to argue against a high draft pick having a bigger impact on the future of the team than having a slightly better losing record.

[mtangelsfan]

It's taste for me, it's my opinion.  I'm not the one making the "only real fans......."  I could personally never pull for my team to lose.

 

That isn't to say that if they do I can't think "oh well, at least the will get a better draft pick", to me that is on a different plane than watching a game a truly wanting your team to lose.

[YouthofToday]

Having high draft picks and re-stocking the farm system is never a bad thing.

Perhaps, yet firing the highly regarded scouting director who drafted Trout due to Reagins personal disdain for him and sacrifice 3 out of our 4 top picks the last two years (Albert Pujols, CJ, Hamilton) indicates that really isn't ownership's prerogative.