I'm Sorry Scott, but...............

[mtangelsfan]

Michael Kohn is just not very good.

 

I fail to see what you do in that guy.

[Erstad Grit]

Can't throw strikes in the 9th of a blow out is not a good sign.

[fan_since79]

The entire bullpen needs to be replaced next year, with the possible exception of Jepsen and Burnett, assuming he returns healthy.

[Glen]

Jepsen needs to be traded to Atlanta so he can improve.  He won't get any better with us.

[ELEVEN]

Mike Butcher needs to be traded to the Doyers so he can F up Kershaw and Ryu.

[AngelsFaninGA]

Jepsen and his 4.36 ERA shouldn't get a free pass either.

[Kevin]

Not to harp too much on Scott but he was excited when Carpenter first came up.

[Erstad Grit]

That's OK I called Arredondo the next Percival

[kevinb]

No one in this bullpen should be here next year.

[tdawg87]

lol this bullpen is so freaking bad. None of them can throw strikes or get outs on a consistent basis.

And please, please get rid of Jepsen. I am so sick of watching him pitch.

[Season Over]

It's amazing that Jepsen is one of the longest tenured Angels.  I can't stand watching him pitch anymore.

[nando714]

I thought Kohn has been ok over the season

[OregonLAA]

I only want DDLR and Burnett back next year. The rest are terrible

[Mark68]

Michael Kohn

Michael Kohn

Michael Kohn

[Second Base]

Kohn has the potential to be good.  He hides the ball well and has a very good fastball with a good breaking pitch.  The issue is, he can't throw the breaking ball for a strike, and he can't control where in the strike zone he throws the heater.  In the minors this was ok because the fastball would simply blow hitters away or they'd chase the breaking ball, and when he couldn't get them to chase that, all he did was come back with a high fastball they couldn't catch up with.  

 

But now as we've seen, Major League hitters have a scouting report on him and are just generally better.  They key in on his fastball because they know the breaking ball won't be thrown in the strike zone, and they also don't chase the high fastball, or when they do, some are quick enough to catch up with it and launch it.   

 

If he were pitching AGAINST the Angels he'd be lethal.  High fastball and breaking balls to Trumbo, Hamilton and Kendrick would have them sitting back on the bench in 3 pitches.  Alas, the Angels are the only team he doesn't pitch against.

 

Most of this is fixed if he starts throwing his breaking ball for a strike.  He'd be a very effective reliever if he did that.  So whether or not you like Kohn should really be based on whether or not you think he'll ever have enough control with that pitch or command with the fastball.   I'm not willing to write him off yet, but I certainly do not trust him right now. 

[Tyler]

If there is an area where Scioscia needs to improve for the coming seasons, it's his bullpen management.

[Blarg]

Just how better can he manage this group? They come in and start giving up walks and hits faster than they can warm up another guy that is going to do the same thing.

[Jason]

A month or so ago I was accused of being an idiot for stating he was not good.

[Jason]

Kohn has the potential to be good.  He hides the ball well and has a very good fastball with a good breaking pitch.  The issue is, he can't throw the breaking ball for a strike, and he can't control where in the strike zone he throws the heater.  In the minors this was ok because the fastball would simply blow hitters away or they'd chase the breaking ball, and when he couldn't get them to chase that, all he did was come back with a high fastball they couldn't catch up with.  

 

But now as we've seen, Major League hitters have a scouting report on him and are just generally better.  They key in on his fastball because they know the breaking ball won't be thrown in the strike zone, and they also don't chase the high fastball, or when they do, some are quick enough to catch up with it and launch it.   

 

If he were pitching AGAINST the Angels he'd be lethal.  High fastball and breaking balls to Trumbo, Hamilton and Kendrick would have them sitting back on the bench in 3 pitches.  Alas, the Angels are the only team he doesn't pitch against.

 

Most of this is fixed if he starts throwing his breaking ball for a strike.  He'd be a very effective reliever if he did that.  So whether or not you like Kohn should really be based on whether or not you think he'll ever have enough control with that pitch or command with the fastball.   I'm not willing to write him off yet, but I certainly do not trust him right now.

This makes it sound like he may have good trade value

[m0nkey]

Sign brian wilson

[Blarg]

A month or so ago I was accused of being an idiot for stating he was not good.

Link?

[TroutAdell]

If he can locate his fast ball and if he can throw his breaking ball for strikes, sounds like every pitcher in the pen. The common denominator is Butcher. If DiPoto doesn't fire him there will be no change.

[Second Base]

Not so much Angels N Skins.  Relievers usually don't have a ton of trade value to begin with.  Most certainly another team would take him, but they wouldn't give up anything of value for him.  The reasons being he's unproven and every team has a Michael Kohn type, hard thrower little or no command. 

[Docwaukee]

There are 8 million relievers who throw 95+ with a good breaker that can't get it together.  Any pitcher can throw strikes if necessary, but not many can consistently throw quality strikes and locate their breaking ball.  Successful relievers can command two pitches.  Starters 3. 

 

Kohn and Jep are no different than Gutierrez and Lowe in terms of 'stuff'.  The difference is that the former two are young enough to keep around in the hope that they get some semblance of control. 

 

Frieri is a bit different in that he really has one pitch that can still be tough to hit even though they know it's coming.  He has shown a second pitch on occasion that looks serviceable.  If he can use that to at least make hitters think a bit, then he'll be fine.  DDLR can locate two plus pitches.  Sometimes.  Those two are worth keeping around imo. 

 

I probably have 20 posts over the last three years that mention the same thing in various ways.  The last nine outs need to be virtually automatic if this team has any shot of being competitive. If you have three other relievers that are lights out then letting Kohn and Jep continue to get better would be fine. 

 

DDLR and Frieri need to be the front end of a very good bullpen instead of the back of a questionable one. 

 

This team needs more consistent production from every facet of the game.  The site of quickest improvement is the pen. 

At best, SP gets mediocre. Offense gets more production from pujols and hamilton.  Two to three pen additions puts that aspect from bad to very good.  I will keep saying it. 

[2112]

Now is the time to bring up every pitcher they can find, and see which ones can pitch. I hope they don't spend a fortune on a reliever in the off season.