Will this be the season that the Halos finally lose 100 games or more?

[TheLordofOuts]

They're the only team to have never lost 100 games or more in a season.  But, I think these guys could be the ones to do it. They can't hit. They can't pitch. They can't field.  Maybe with a 100 loss season, Arte taps out and gives us all hope again. 

[Angel Oracle]

I downgraded my prediction to 70-72 wins.

[fan_since79]

I wouldn't be shocked to see 60 wins before it's mercifully over. Last night was a travesty.

[Angels 1961]

This team is really bad. I wonder where do they go from here. Who do u trade maybe Ward maybe Detmers. Other value on team a few BP pieces but they are just rentals. Feel bad Washington at his age with a team this bad. Nothing in minors to bring up and help and poor Trout stuck with this team for another what 6 or 7 years. 

[Jason]

2 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

This team is really bad. I wonder where do they go from here. Who do u trade maybe Ward maybe Detmers. Other value on team a few BP pieces but they are just rentals. Feel bad Washington at his age with a team this bad. Nothing in minors to bring up and help and poor Trout stuck with this team for another what 6 or 7 years. 

Trout is part of the problem. My pity for him has passed. 

[jsnpritchett]

10 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

This team is really bad. I wonder where do they go from here. Who do u trade maybe Ward maybe Detmers. Other value on team a few BP pieces but they are just rentals. Feel bad Washington at his age with a team this bad. Nothing in minors to bring up and help and poor Trout stuck with this team for another what 6 or 7 years. 

Why in the world would they trade Detmers? 

[Angels 1961]

1 minute ago, jsnpritchett said:

Why in the world would they trade Detmers? 

Time for total rebuild trade the few players that can bring back prospects. Trade Ward also problem Angels have very little of any value.

[Angels 1961]

This team is years away from becoming even a 500 team.

[Angels 1961]

Next off season will have to rebuild BP plus need 2 to 3 starters plus 4 or 5 position players. So many needs with an owner who will not spend and a horrible minor league system. 

[Stradling]

Just now, Angels 1961 said:

Next off season will have to rebuild BP plus need 2 to 3 starters plus 4 or 5 position players. So many needs with an owner who will not spend and a horrible minor league system. 

And some of those positions will be filled by the trades they make at the deadline. 
As of now, the needs are exactly what they were this off season, plus replace Drury.  The only thing that changed (as of today) is the emergence of Adell. 

[fan_since79]

58 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

This team is years away from becoming even a 500 team.

Hoping they won't surpass Pittsburgh's 20 straight losing seasons. Please don't let that happen!

Get out, Arte, and enjoy your billions in profit. Reorganize this franchise, top to bottom, and build a decent farm. I can take a 5-10 yr rebuild, but not decades of futility. I'm too old for that. 

[Angels 1961]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

And some of those positions will be filled by the trades they make at the deadline. 
As of now, the needs are exactly what they were this off season, plus replace Drury.  The only thing that changed (as of today) is the emergence of Adell. 

Will they and who do u trade? Estevez not bringing back an everyday player. What I'm saying Angels do not have much to trade. Detmers and Ward will be only players to bring back anything decent. This team will not compete next year.

[Jeremiah]

1 hour ago, Angels 1961 said:

This team is really bad. I wonder where do they go from here. Who do u trade maybe Ward maybe Detmers. Other value on team a few BP pieces but they are just rentals. Feel bad Washington at his age with a team this bad. Nothing in minors to bring up and help and poor Trout stuck with this team for another what 6 or 7 years. 

I agree that it’s time to rebuild. As IP said in another thread, they’re “rebuilding-ish,” right now. That said, young, cost-controlled SP is essential. I think Detmers is a guy the team should build around. Trading Ward and Anderson should definitely be explored when the deadline comes around, as those are most likely going to be their best trading chips.

[Blarg]

THIS IS THE REBUILD, YOU IDIOTS!

[Angels 1961]

1 minute ago, Jeremiah said:

I agree that it’s time to rebuild. As IP said in another thread, they’re “rebuilding-ish,” right now. That said, young, cost-controlled SP is essential. I think Detmers is a guy the team should build around. Trading Ward and Anderson should definitely be explored when the deadline comes around, as those are most likely going to be their best trading chips.

I just hope Anderson continues to pitch well. When is Detmers a FA.

[Angelsjunky]

After starting 6-4, they've gone 4-13. 

[Stradling]

6 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Will they and who do u trade? Estevez not bringing back an everyday player. What I'm saying Angels do not have much to trade. Detmers and Ward will be only players to bring back anything decent. This team will not compete next year.

They’ll trade Drury, if he’s playing well he could bring back a AAA bullpen arm or 4th outfielder with options.  They’ll trade Estevez, Moore and any other reliever pitching well.  They could trade Rengifo, but I doubt it, they could trade Anderson as well. Most will bring back what Drury would and probably more. 

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, Blarg said:

THIS IS THE REBUILD, YOU IDIOTS!

I’ve been saying that since Eppler 

[Angels 1961]

2 minutes ago, Blarg said:

THIS IS THE REBUILD, YOU IDIOTS!

I agree but who do u trade as Angels continue to rebuild. Nothing in minors to help in next few years except maybe couple of pitchers.

[fan_since79]

In another year, Trout might make a more attractive trade chip. Of course he'll be one year older and if his offensive production really declines, then we're probably stuck with him. His current home runs are exciting but they're almost all solo shots. His batting average is abysmal, for Trout. 

If we actually trade him (he must approve it) what can we really get in return? More uncertain prospects? He brings fans in too, and the bottom line is important for a floundering team.

[Angels 1961]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

They’ll trade Drury, if he’s playing well he could bring back a AAA bullpen arm or 4th outfielder with options.  They’ll trade Estevez, Moore and any other reliever pitching well.  They could trade Rengifo, but I doubt it, they could trade Anderson as well. Most will bring back what Drury would and probably more. 

Drury, Estevez and Moore not getting u much as rentals. Drury and Moore need to play better to have any value. Anderson and Ward have some value.

[jsnpritchett]

Just now, fan_since79 said:

In another year, Trout might make a more attractive trade chip. Of course he'll be one year older and if his offensive production really declines, then we're probably stuck with him. His current home runs are exciting but they're almost all solo shots. His batting average is abysmal, for Trout. 

If we actually trade him (he must approve it) what can we really get in return? More uncertain prospects? He brings fans in too, and the bottom line is important for a floundering team.

No one is going to take his contract for any sort of deal that makes any amount of sense for the Angels. I don't know why people can't understand this. 

[Stradling]

I’m fine being “stuck” with Mike Trout. That’s been the case since he signed his extension. His last day played for the Angels will be a very sad day, one unlike any other players last day as an Angel. 

[Stradling]

Just now, Angels 1961 said:

Drury, Estevez and Moore not getting u much as rentals. Drury and Moore need to play better to have any value. Anderson and Ward have some value.

They can bring back mlb depth which the team lacks. 

[Blarg]

Mike Trout needs a dead cat bounce season to trade him.