Official 2022-23 Offseason Hot Stove Thread

[Angelsfan1984]

I don’t know of any owner in sports with less fux given than what cohen is doing. Eppler is going to be banished into GM he’ll if it doesn’t work out. Clearly they are getting anyone they are willing to spend on and I assume all recommendations coming from eppler. 

[Warfarin]

 

 

 

[Angelsfan1984]

4 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

 

 

 

He throws that change up hard. Would probably get better results dropping a few mph from it. 

[Warfarin]

Just now, Angelsfan1984 said:

He throws that change up hard. Would probably get better results dropping a few mph from it. 

He does.  As a reliever though, he could effectively scrap that pitch if there isn't enough separation from his FB.

[Warfarin]

 

 

[Angels 1961]

11 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

 

 

 

I did not see this coming. Will they slot him as starter or BP piece? 

[Chuck]

Fernando Romero went toe to toe with Shohei Ohtani on the mound back in 2018. It was a great pitching duel. 

 

[rafibomb]

2 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

 

 

hands-on due to potential discussions with new owners ?

[Warfarin]

3 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

I did not see this coming. Will they slot him as starter or BP piece? 

Can't know for sure, but would seem to think bullpen is most likely.  Per Fangraphs, back in 2020:

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Repurposed in the bullpen, Romero is now a two-pitch sinker/slider reliever. His heater gained two ticks in the shorter outings and he’s now averaging 96-97 and touching 99 with his two-seamer, and his hard, upper-80s slider is very tough on righties because of his slot. He has late-inning stuff but the command might prohibit that sort of role. Romero doesn’t repeat his delivery very well, his release point really wanders, and Rocco Baldelli watched him walk a lot of hitters last September. If Romero is going to stick in the majors this year, he’ll have to pitch himself into the late-inning role that even those who rightly considered him a reliever while he was a prospect (raises hand) thought was likely.

Low risk, high reward type of move.  The most likely outcome is nothing comes of it, but ideally the FO can sign a variety of pitchers like this, and have 1 or 2 emerge to be legit bullpen options.  Romero would seem to at least have that potential.

[angelsnationtalk]

8 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

 

 

Not going over the tax confirmed.

I cringe every time I hear he's hands on with the negotiations. 

Unless he knows Perry is trying to make a good trade so Arte stepped in to make sure they signed Drury 

[Warfarin]

1 minute ago, angelsnationtalk said:

Not going over the tax confirmed.

I cringe every time I hear he's hands on with the negotiations. 

Unless he knows Perry is trying to make a good trade so Arte stepped in to make sure they signed Drury 

Basically, everything that has occurred this offseason indicates the team is operating as it always has under Moreno.  He has always had payroll increase and has always been heavily involved in the operations of the team.  The style of moves (acquiring players with 1 or 2 year contracts, with the exception of Anderson) is consistent with how we have seen Minasian make moves.

I don't really view this as a terrible thing, just you know, an expected thing.  

[m0nkey]

Baty to LF or part of the ohtani trade next year?

[Warfarin]

 

Fascinating.  It seems like the Giants basically just walked out on the deal.  What a strange series of events.

[mmc]

 

[BTH]

57 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

Basically, everything that has occurred this offseason indicates the team is operating as it always has under Moreno. 

I’m not sure about that. Their 2023 payroll is $26M higher than the 2022 payroll was.

In 2022, the opening day payroll only went up $6.5M from 2021 and in 2021, the opening day payroll actually went down $2M from 2020 (non pro-rated).

[mmc]

 

[Dtwncbad]

The complaints about Arte Moreno being “hands on” right now are really ridiculous.

With the team going through an ownership transition, this would be the one time an owner should be over communicating with the front office to make sure everything stays on track.

If you hate Arte and his history, that’s fine.  But he is selling the team.  There is plenty of evidence that he was too “hands on” in baseball decisions.  That will be a big part of his legacy no matter what happens during this transition.

You don’t have to spin him communicating with the front office now into evidence of him meddling.

It kinda comes off as petty.

And I will say one more thing.  Everyone hopes the next owner is not hands-on in baseball decisions.  Well, an owner is only too “hands on” in baseball decisions if the baseball decisions they make are bad baseball decisions.

 

[T.G.]

55 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

Scott Boras is a baller.

[mmc]

 

[HanfordGuy]

2 hours ago, Warfarin said:

 

 

 

For a guy with a lot of velocity, he didn’t strike out a lot of batters in the Japanese league. Doesn’t walk a lot of batters though. Interesting pickup.

[HanfordGuy]

21 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

He had pop in his bat early in his career. I wonder what happened. From what I remember, not a great defensive player. More corner infielder/outfielder depth.

[Warfarin]

2 minutes ago, HanfordGuy said:

For a guy with a lot of velocity, he didn’t strike out a lot of batters in the Japanese league. Doesn’t walk a lot of batters though. Interesting pickup.

Yeah.  He seemed to basically be a starter there though.  I think we'll likely have him as a reliever.  His stuff could play up better in relief and with good coaching.

[HanfordGuy]

The Giants found out he was “transitioning”,,,

 

[HanfordGuy]

30 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

 

[HanfordGuy]

Swanson deal breakdown: