How is this possible?

[mmc]

[Docwaukee]

where have you been?  It's been like that all year.  

 

[Docwaukee]

2 minutes ago, RBM said:

Uh, we suck? The catchers do share some of the blame for the wild pitches. How much I don’t know. Lucroy was terrible this year and Kevan Smith is pretty bad also. For example, the first WP Sandoval threw was clearly a passed ball by Kevan Smith scored as a WP. 

A lot of it is on the catchers.  Smith is terrible at blocking and Lucroy was the worst in baseball.  Garneau was avg.  

[jordan]

Garneau hit a 3 run HR off Lester for the A’s tonight. 

[GrittyVeterans]

The only thing surprising about the graph is that the Angels ERA isn't over 5. It will be shortly though

[Jay]

Angels lead the league in bad stuff.

 

[cysomeawfulpitcher]

We’ve been slumpbusters and making bad pitchers look good, hence my name, for years.  This isn’t news and Huey Lewis just left town.

[Buttercup]

Scioscia use to work with the catchers. Just saying...

[Second Base]

That's the one thing you can say for most Scioscia-led teams.  They're catching from a defensive perspective was as consistent as you can get.  Never bad.  Ausmus isn't nearly as cerebral of a catcher, or perhaps isn't the perfectionist that Scioscia was behind the plate.  

[failos]

WAKE UP EPPLER

[Jeff Fletcher]

Say hello to Max Stassi

[jsnpritchett]

27 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Say hello to Max Stassi

He had more than half as many wild pitches against than Robinson Chirinos in about one-third of the innings with Houston. He seemed unremarkable last year, as well.

[tomsred]

1 hour ago, jsnpritchett said:

He had more than half as many wild pitches against than Robinson Chirinos in about one-third of the innings with Houston. He seemed unremarkable last year, as well.

I don't see the Astros on the list among the top 15 worst, so they must have had less than half what the Angels have anyway. 

[Docwaukee]

3 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Say hello to Max Stassi

what do you think so far?  

[TooCool]

Eppler probably thinks it stands for "Winning Pitchers"

[Jeff Fletcher]

4 hours ago, Dochalo said:

what do you think so far?  

I think he’s played three games. 

I expect he’ll be exactly what he’s been: a good defensive catcher who doesn’t hit very much. 

[Amazing Larry]

So Mathis 2.0?

Sweet. 

[Jeff Fletcher]

18 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

So Mathis 2.0?

Sweet. 

What if he’s Maldonado 2.0?

[Blarg]

Yadiar would be pretty awesome. 

[Stradling]

So it reads like not a single person here believes Stassi can bring the value he brought in 2018?  That season was a fluke?  Doesn’t it make sense to acquire a guy one year removed from a 2.6 WAR who has 3 years of control when the acquisition cost is low and his compensation is low?  He’s also replacing guys like Lucroy or Garneau, who really aren’t very good to begin with.  

[jsnpritchett]

27 minutes ago, Stradling said:

So it reads like not a single person here believes Stassi can bring the value he brought in 2018?  That season was a fluke?  Doesn’t it make sense to acquire a guy one year removed from a 2.6 WAR who has 3 years of control when the acquisition cost is low and his compensation is low?  He’s also replacing guys like Lucroy or Garneau, who really aren’t very good to begin with.  

...or 1.0 WAR if you look at Baseball-Reference, as I've noted elsewhere.  And I'll again ask why, if he's so valuable, did the Astros twice make moves to trade for another "defense-first" catcher to replace him? (Side note: I still don't care about him one way or the other...I just think anyone expecting any sort of real contribution from him is probably going to be disappointed)

[Stradling]

This is a relevant question here I guess.  People who know this stuff better than me usually tells us that Baseball reference over values defense. So why does fangraphs value Stassi more than BR?

[jsnpritchett]

11 minutes ago, Stradling said:

This is a relevant question here I guess.  People who know this stuff better than me usually tells us that Baseball reference over values defense. So why does fangraphs value Stassi more than BR?

BR has Houston's other catcher, Robinson Chirinos, at 2.6 WAR this year, while he's at 1.2 on Fangraphs.  BR has him at 1.1 defensive WAR, FG has him as a negative value defensively. 

[Buttercup]

16 minutes ago, Stradling said:

This is a relevant question here I guess.  People who know this stuff better than me usually tells us that Baseball reference over values defense. So why does fangraphs value Stassi more than BR?

I believe fangraphs recently introduced pitch framing to its catcher WAR evaluation. BR doesn’t include framing. Which is a huge difference. 

[Jay]

1 minute ago, Buttercup said:

I believe fangraphs recently introduced pitch framing to its catcher WAR evaluation. BR doesn’t include framing. Which is a huge difference. 

More subjective nonsense, terrific.