Canning

[Scott34]

Dude is outperforming all expectations. 44 IP, 47 K, 0.99 WHIP. With Brandon Lowe and some other pitchers, Canning probably won't have a shot at ROY but he's been awesome. Feels a lot like a young Jered Weaver to me. Local kid who came up and completely just shoved. Hopefully Canning can lead the staff for years to come like Weave. 

[Lou]

Bruin 

[Second Base]

Griffin Canning is what happens when a team invests in pitching, developes it and gets lucky. They invested a high draft pick on him,  something they should've been doing the last two years but for some reason haven't. They developed him and saw his arsenal reach an entirely different level.  And they've gotten lucky. What was a mid to back end starter in college became a mid rotation starter as he developed in the minors and now that he's in the majors, he's looking more like a front to mid rotation starter. 

Now all we need is Ohtani healthy, and a fully developed Chris Rodriguez and Jose Soriano. If that happens, the Angels will not lose many games. Not with an offense featuring Trout, Adell, Marsh, Ohtani....not with an Eppler built bullpen.

The Angels are going to start winning a lot of games in 2020, but come 2022, they're going to be the elite team in the AL. I hope to see a lot of Angels vs Padres World Series matchups next decade.

[Inside Pitch]

Four quality pitches....   When one isn't working you go with something else.   This is what it looks like.   Im sure you guys noticed after one of those hard hit balls he did this very slight shrug, like .. meh... thats not working.   That was IMO an insight into who he is and the pitcher he will be.  

Edited June 11, 2019 by Inside Pitch

[GrittyVeterans]

I see him as a very solid #3 starter at worst

[DMVol]

8 hours ago, Second Base said:

....Griffin Canning is what happens when a team invests in pitching, develops it and gets lucky. They invested a high draft pick on him,  something they should've been doing the last two years but for some reason haven't.....

Best player available always is a good rule to live by but good young pitching is the foundation for success....piecing together an everyday lineup isn't easy but having a pool of available young starting pitching is a recipe for extended success....at least in my book...

[Dtwncbad]

Starting pitching in 2020 can be so drastically different.  If Canning is for real, Ohtani is truly healthy, and one possible good free agent or trade acquisition. . .

This team can be so, so much better.

[PattyD22]

The thing I have noticed with him is that aside from 1 game, his mound composure is really good for a veteran, let alone a rookie.  Last night, he settled down after the 2nd inning and really made some good pitches.  He went toe to toe with one of the best pitchers in the NL.  It's a shame he got a no decision, but he kept us in the game and the bullpen didn't blow it, which was even sweeter.

[Mark PT]

10 hours ago, Second Base said:

Griffin Canning is what happens when a team invests in pitching, developes it and gets lucky. They invested a high draft pick on him,  something they should've been doing the last two years but for some reason haven't. They developed him and saw his arsenal reach an entirely different level.  And they've gotten lucky. What was a mid to back end starter in college became a mid rotation starter as he developed in the minors and now that he's in the majors, he's looking more like a front to mid rotation starter. 

Now all we need is Ohtani healthy, and a fully developed Chris Rodriguez and Jose Soriano. If that happens, the Angels will not lose many games. Not with an offense featuring Trout, Adell, Marsh, Ohtani....not with an Eppler built bullpen.

The Angels are going to start winning a lot of games in 2020, but come 2022, they're going to be the elite team in the AL. I hope to see a lot of Angels vs Padres World Series matchups next decade.

Hopefully they have exorcised all the UCL injury demons out of the club house.

[Angel Oracle]

Important thing is to be cautious enough with his innings and pitch counts this season, get him to where he can start to stretch it out by 2020.

Same thing with Suarez

[Mark PT]

10 hours ago, Scott34 said:

Dude is outperforming all expectations. 44 IP, 47 K, 0.99 WHIP. With Brandon Lowe and some other pitchers, Canning probably won't have a shot at ROY but he's been awesome. Feels a lot like a young Jered Weaver to me. Local kid who came up and completely just shoved. Hopefully Canning can lead the staff for years to come like Weave. 

And like Weaver, he is able to hit his spots with all his pitches. This is the key that guys like Scaggs and Heaney cant do with consistency.

[aznhockeyguy]

I remember the year the Angels drafted Canning.  Would've been a high first round pick but there were concerns about the amount he pitched at UCLA during the season and some scans showed some things that scared teams away from spending their first round pick on him.  Glad it worked out for the Angels, making it to the show less than 2 years later.

[DCAngelsFan]

 

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Second Base said:

Griffin Canning is what happens when a team invests in pitching, developes it and gets lucky. They invested a high draft pick on him,  something they should've been doing the last two years but for some reason haven't. They developed him and saw his arsenal reach an entirely different level.  And they've gotten lucky. What was a mid to back end starter in college became a mid rotation starter as he developed in the minors and now that he's in the majors, he's looking more like a front to mid rotation starter. 

Given injury rates and free agency and the number of starting pitchers who convert to relief, (and of course, the majority who just aren't good enough), my sense is we should have a goal to draft (or sign) players with an eye to being able to promote a mid-rotation or better starting pitcher each and every year.   That's easier said than done, but the way I see it, means we should have used one of our two first picks on a high-ceiling college pitcher (granted, it did look a pretty thin crop.)   And do that pretty much every year.  

I'm usually a big fan of BPA - but starting pitching is too expensive a commodity - free agency isn't a great way to get pitching - we need to develop our own.  

Having saved some money on Wilson, perhaps we can land Kochanowicz?   But he's years away even if we do sign him.  

 

[totdprods]

26 minutes ago, DCAngelsFan said:

Having saved some money on Wilson, perhaps we can land Kochanowicz?   But he's years away even if we do sign him.  

 

Kochanowicz is expected to sign officially in coming days, and his father said it would be over-slot.

So definitely.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

Griffin Canning’s development may have already gotten him to the top of the Angels’ rotation

https://theathletic.com/1021136/2019/06/11/griffin-cannings-development-may-have-already-gotten-him-to-the-top-of-the-angels-rotation/

Fabian Ardaya

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ANAHEIM, Calif. — Perhaps it is too soon to crown an ace, even in a rotation severely lacking one. It is still early to bestow that honor on someone just 23 years old, just over two years removed from his draft date and with a little over a year of professional baseball experience under his belt.

The Angels’ potential, eventual ace is expected to be on an innings limit this season and only twice as a professional has crossed the 100-pitch threshold. They’re being cautious with him — and for good reason. His development, and his status as one of the few homegrown starting pitchers the Angels have been able to develop in recent seasons, certainly bears weight.

But it is not the weight of expectations that makes each start by Griffin Canning so enticing to watch. It is his poise, swagger and downright filthy stuff that has put him in a class of his own in a span of just eight big-league starts. He has struck out more than a batter per inning in his 44 1/3 frames,...