AngelsWin.com Today: The tragic downfall of Albert Pujols

[Chuck]

4 minutes ago, IEAngelsfan said:

FIFY

This too.

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, mtangelsfan said:

I'll take that bet yk, but if I win you have to drive out here and buy me a burrito from Taco Johns.

Sounds like you are the big loser on that bet. 

[Inside Pitch]

 

1 hour ago, True Grich said:

I've been so crazy busy, I haven't had much time to post in months.... but it's funny - stepping into this thread it's like I never left.  Same conversations over and over again.

Nice to see you posting again TG...

[Angelsjunky]

I think the biggest takeway for me is that Albert Pujols' wife is a complete and utter moron: She was angry at God because the Cardinals only offered 10/$220 million. Fuck you, Mrs Pujols.

[70runner]

4 hours ago, IEAngelsfan said:

Call me naive, but I believe he will retire early.

You're naive.  He won't quit a job that pays 25+M/yr to put on a uniform and basically watch 162 baseball games from the dugout.  When he can't run anymore, he'll become coach Pujols while still collecting his remaining millions.

[IEAngelsfan]

30 minutes ago, 70runner said:

You're naive.  He won't quit a job that pays 25+M/yr to put on a uniform and basically watch 162 baseball games from the dugout.  When he can't run anymore, he'll become coach Pujols while still collecting his remaining millions.

We'll find out in a few years one way or the other. Then one of us will pull a "Lou" and dredge up this thread to post "I agree" at that time.

[Stradling]

2 hours ago, yk9001 said:

I'll bet anybody here a full Tommy Burger dinner, with all the trimmings, that Pujols ain't leaving one single penny on the table.

He'll continue to go down the shitter, then about mid 2018 or 2019, he'll go on the mystery DL, then get release within a year.  Every single sheckle GA-RON-TEED

Can I get in on this?  Maybe something more, $100 donation to the Miracle League?  

[ABC]

42 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

I think the biggest takeway for me is that Albert Pujols' wife is a complete and utter moron: She was angry at God because the Cardinals only offered 10/$220 million. Fuck you, Mrs Pujols.

 

enjoy

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/7346376/albert-pujols-wife-deidre-explains-why-los-angeles-angels-slugger-left-st-louis-cardinals

[ABC]

5 hours ago, Troll Daddy said:

I don't mind being the resident troll ... but, what does that make you, Queen Troll? You troll everyone on this forum ... It's no secret 

Nah, not a troll. More like self-appointed publicist and defender of everything Angels. Baghdad Bob of Anaheim. He gets so mad at anything negative posted. Look out for the PMs, lol. 

[Ohtaniland]

33 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

I think the biggest takeway for me is that Albert Pujols' wife is a complete and utter moron: She was angry at God because the Cardinals only offered 10/$220 million. Fuck you, Mrs Pujols.

Which is exactly why retiring early is out of the question. If he retires early then the value of his contract will become less than what the Cardinals offered him to begin with so getting mad at God was idiotic.

[Stradling]

Yea if we know one thing it's that situations never change, ever.  

[Ohtaniland]

21 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Yea if we know one thing it's that situations never change, ever.  

Strad, he has superstar status like Kobe, Shaq, Jordon, A-Rod, Magic, Jeter, Gretzky. Those guys never left money on the table and neither will Albert. These type of athletes are very rare because they were the greatest at their trade but they all have some type of narcissism that leads them to believe that they are owed every dime and more because of the money the team and league made while they were great.

[tdawg87]

Rare footage of Stradling and Claude:

 

[HaloMilliVanilli]

8 hours ago, Curse of the Wonderdog said:

If he does not retire early, he will wreck this franchise and Trout will leave. 

.....and he will wear his boyfriends Van Halen shirt, jinx the band, and they will break up.

[Ohtaniland]

22 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Rare footage of Stradling and Claude:

 

Lol that's legit. 

[Troll Daddy]

Pujols is hitting .315 over his last 17 games.

[fan_since79]

2 hours ago, yk9001 said:

It's not like we are going to talk about playoff scenarios.

Two or three more wild cards would open up a lot of possibilities.

But that won't be happening, so yes, no playoff scenarios this year. Or next year...or the year after that...or...

 

[ettin]

Nice summary Brent. As I mentioned to you on Twitter, I am disappointed that Pujols dropped his line drive, all fields approach when he was in STL to favor this more pull heavy, fly ball (home run) approach that he has shown more in Anaheim. The BABIP numbers reflect less line drives and more ground balls and fly balls which suppress the component parts of BABIP.

Whether it was a suggested change by the front office/coaches, a cognizant decision on Albert's part, or simply age-related regression this will permanently cement this contract as a major loss to the Angels from a financial and productiveness point of view.

Two final thoughts: 1 ) When Pujols was signed Dipoto supposedly cited an internal Angels study that showed really great hitters show a general trend of extending their usefulness and careers longer than the average player and 2 ) Albert has been a late starter in his time with the Halos, as, through May 8th the last two years, he has posted a 71 wRC+ and 106 wRC+ in 2016 and 2015 respectively. This year he is currently at an 82 wRC+. From May 9th on he improved in both of those seasons by quite a fair amount so the hope is he will start to pick it up soon (basically what Chuck is hoping for).

[Chuck]

Hey AW writers, have the word "tragic" in your future article titles. It's better for business. 

[Blarg]

4 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

Rare footage of Stradling and Claude:

 

It was all started over a discussion about bacon on a double double.

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Blarg said:

It was all started over a discussion about Canadian bacon on a double double.

Fixed

[Brent Maguire]

1 hour ago, Chuckster70 said:

Hey AW writers, have the word "tragic in your future article titles. It's better for business. 

"The tragically historic Mike Trout season" has a good ring to it. 

[T.G.]

Yoko Ono loves this thread.

[stormngt]

14 hours ago, CALZONE said:

Strad, he has superstar status like Kobe, Shaq, Jordon, A-Rod, Magic, Jeter, Gretzky. Those guys never left money on the table and neither will Albert. These type of athletes are very rare because they were the greatest at their trade but they all have some type of narcissism that leads them to believe that they are owed every dime and more because of the money the team and league made while they were great.

I am puzzled.  You say Pujols and other greats won't leave money on the table.  I agree with that.  However in a previous debate with me you argue that Trout has is wealthy enough that he will leave regardless what the Angels offer as an extension.

 

(Not your exact words but that's how interpreted them)

[Ohtaniland]

45 minutes ago, stormngt said:

I am puzzled.  You say Pujols and other greats won't leave money on the table.  I agree with that.  However in a previous debate with me you argue that Trout has is wealthy enough that he will leave regardless what the Angels offer as an extension.

 

(Not your exact words but that's how interpreted them)

No I said that Trout is comfortable with his current deal in regards to the years, monetary value and that it leaves his options open. He's going to get whatever money he wants when the appropriate time comes and it could be from the Angels. I just don't think that he will reopen his current deal because he's already secure for life.

Now that being said he certainly will do what's best for him personally and that could involve a variety of things. He has family, attorneys and an agent that will help him sort that out. Unfortunately as passionate as the fans are about Trout they will have zero impact on his decision making. 

It's safe to assume that Trout is a great character guy and I think he is but don't rule out the possibility that his lawyers and agent won't be unlike Boras when the timing is right. There's a lot of money to be made by a lot of people in regards to Mike Trout.