Do you think we'll exercise the option on Yunel Escobar?

[Troll Daddy]

14 minutes ago, Stradling said:

 Yes they are called bench players not starting third baseman 

LMAO

 

[Troll Daddy]

42 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Who doesn't?

Save it for Mike Trout

[Oz27]

4 hours ago, Troll Daddy said:

Escobar .355 OBP 49th

But 50-odd points of that come from walks and I thought you claimed walks are "a false start"?

[Blarg]

34 minutes ago, Stradling said:

 Yes they are called bench players not starting third baseman 

Or David Eckstein, Darin Erstad or... (insert gritty player name)

[Blarg]

11 minutes ago, Oz27 said:

But 50-odd points of that come from walks and I thought you claimed walks are "a false start"?

Doc already claimed his OBP percentage was the result of his batting average. So which of you two shoots the other in the head for ruining your little troll, trolling.

Really you guys, your arguments are getting sillier every minute and meanwhile the only guy being consistent here is the guy you are trying to ridicule.

[Oz27]

Just now, Blarg said:

Doc already claimed his OBP percentage was the result of his batting average. So which of you two shots the other in the head for ruining your little troll, trolling.

Really you guys, your arguments are getting sillier every minute and meanwhile the only guy being consistent here is the guy you are trying to ridicule.

*woosh*

[Blarg]

Yeah, any sensible discussion goes right over your head.

Trolldaddy made a simple and factual statement but you guys have to try and beat him down. In the end you are the ones looking like the stupid trolls, so just keep it up, it's entertaining.

[Oz27]

2 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Yeah, any sensible discussion goes right over your head.

Trolldaddy made a simple and factual statement but you guys have to try and beat him down. In the end you are the on looking like the stupid trolls, so just keep it up, it's entertaining.

lol. Keep yelling at that cloud, it makes you sound really "sensible".

For the record, do you know it's literally true that his OBP is mostly the result of his batting average, as Doc said, (276 points of the .355 if you want to be precise) but that a not-insignificant amount of it came from his walking (79 points)? Keep acting like those things contradict each other if you wish but given that just isn't true, it probably isn't a wise path to go down.

[ukyah]

34 minutes ago, Oz27 said:

lol. Keep yelling at that cloud, it makes you sound really "sensible".

For the record, do you know it's literally true that his OBP is mostly the result of his batting average, as Doc said, (276 points of the .355 if you want to be precise) but that a not-insignificant amount of it came from his walking (79 points)? Keep acting like those things contradict each other if you wish but given that just isn't true, it probably isn't a wise path to go down.

 

what else could his obp be made up of, other than walks and hits? other than sporadically being hit by a pitch, how else can a hitter get on base?

[Stradling]

52 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Or David Eckstein, Darin Erstad or... (insert gritty player name)

Give me a break.  Neither of your examples are good examples.  At least if you would have mentioned a one dimensional guy like Dave Kingman it would have made sense.  

[Stradling]

1 hour ago, Troll Daddy said:

LMAO

 

Outside of you looking incredibly stupid I have no idea what this means.  Calhoun is not a one dimensional "role player".  

[Oz27]

9 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Outside of you looking incredibly stupid I have no idea what this means.  Calhoun is not a one dimensional "role player".  

lol yep was just about to say this. Calhoun can field and hit for power, plus he runs okay and can hit for contact. He is an above average starting right fielder. That is not a "role player".

[Troll Daddy]

31 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Outside of you looking incredibly stupid I have no idea what this means.  Calhoun is not a one dimensional "role player".  

You're right ... I just thought it was a cool pic, Chill

[Stradling]

I agree it's a cool picture, he's a good ball player. 

[Troll Daddy]

12 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I agree it's a cool picture, he's a good ball player. 

Escobar is a good ball player too. 

[Blarg]

3 hours ago, ukyah said:

 

what else could his obp be made up of, other than walks and hits? other than sporadically being hit by a pitch, how else can a hitter get on base?

This is why I say Doc and Oz are just flailing now. 

[m0nkey]

11 hours ago, Blarg said:

Being a run scored is not anything he can control once on base. And you guys pound the RBI is a false stat so your entire post has only one valid point, he could decline. 

But RBI totals are something he can control?

[Blarg]

He can exert some control of his at bat when RISP opportunities present themselves, no more. Last season he was relatively successful in those situations. 

[Angel Oracle]

19 hours ago, arch stanton said:

I don't think you can truly assess him with sporadic playing time at multiple positions. He's better off to start the season at Salt Lake than to do that. Depending on who they get for 2B the team will be extremely right handed. Better off to deal one of Cron, Marte, or Escobar in the search for pitching.

Except that it's not often that a younger player with a mid-upper .700s OPS starts next season in the minors.   Usually that's when they will try to continue to give him more chances at the MLB level.

[Angel Oracle]

16 hours ago, Stradling said:

Give me a break.  Neither of your examples are good examples.  At least if you would have mentioned a one dimensional guy like Dave Kingman it would have made sense.  

And Escobar doesn't even produce much power.  He is just a shade over being a singles hitting 3B who can't field or run very well at all, and has struggled to be a solid teammate.   The more I think about it, $7 million is a lot of cash for that.

[Cdaniel]

On 11/5/2016 at 5:33 PM, ukyah said:

 

what else could his obp be made up of, other than walks and hits? other than sporadically being hit by a pitch, how else can a hitter get on base?

Error and or fielders choice

[Cdaniel]

Drop 3rd strike

[ukyah]

 

2 hours ago, Cdaniel said:

Error and or fielders choice

 

2 hours ago, Cdaniel said:

Drop 3rd strike

 

 

not considered.

The full formula is OBP = (Hits + Walks + Hit by Pitch) / (At Bats + Walks + Hit by Pitch + Sacrifice Flies).

[Oz27]

On 06/11/2016 at 6:33 AM, ukyah said:

 

what else could his obp be made up of, other than walks and hits? other than sporadically being hit by a pitch, how else can a hitter get on base?

Missed this before - but yes, obviously that is the case. I was just ribbing Troll Daddy by pointing out the irony of him quoting a player's OBP when he constantly says "walks are a false stat".

[Tank]

It seems that the people here who take a dump on RBIs simultaneously have praise for hitting with RISP. That seems odd.