Mattingly pulls Conley 4 outs away from No No

[mancini79]

This whole Pitch Count thing is now out of control. Mattingly pulls Conley because he had 116 PC. In the 7th inning he had a K, then BB, then a fly out. Only 1 out away to finish the inning. He wasn't struggling at all and just tossed a 92 MPH fastball. At least give him til his next hit. Oh, the Marlins were up by 5 so a HR wasn't going to jeopardize the win much. This kid may never get this opportunity again. If I were Conley, I would have just sat on the mound til the manager walked back to the dugout.

[Broad Street]

Somewhere Nolan Ryan is punching a picture of Mattingly.

[AngelsLakersFan]

How many pitches is ok though? The numbers say going over 120 increases risk of injury. He still had 4 outs left, he could've easily ended up near 150 pitches.

[ukyah]

How many pitches is ok though? The numbers say going over 120 increases risk of injury. He still had 4 outs left, he could've easily ended up near 150 pitches.

 

 

i'll take my shot at immortality over the worries of some ephemeral count.

[ScottT]

Good decision.

Baseball has gotten a lot smarter in recent years. No hitters have long been overhyped... now someone comes close every couple weeks, and every one is shown live. Not that special. People have also wised up and realized that a lot of luck is often involved and a no hitter may be the third or fourth best pitching performance of the night.

Even Harold Reynolds gets it.

[arch stanton]

I'd assume that all these scenarios have been spelled out in advance for the pitchers. They know the pitch count will come into play.

[Jay]

old school = leave the kid in

new school = who cares about no no, pitch count !

Mattingly = new school ?

[Troll Daddy]

Good decision.

Baseball has gotten a lot smarter in recent years. No hitters have long been overhyped... now someone comes close every couple weeks, and every one is shown live. Not that special. People have also wised up and realized that a lot of luck is often involved and a no hitter may be the third or fourth best pitching performance of the night.

Even Harold Reynolds gets it.

Everything in sports revolves around luck. The better you are the luckier you are.

I feel bad for the kid ... didn't it also happen to one of the young Dodgers pitcher? In the end it was probably the right move.

[gotbeer]

Hey, at least you could somehow make an excuse with the pitch count. 

 

Still have no idea why Roberts did his pull at the beginning of the year.

 

But in either case, isn't that one of the unwritten rules of baseball?

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

How many pitches is ok though? The numbers say going over 120 increases risk of injury. He still had 4 outs left, he could've easily ended up near 150 pitches.

Nolan Ryan has thrown as many as 235 pitches in a game. At 42 years old he threw 164 pitches in 1989. It's a different game today, but Tommy John surgeries are at all time highs.

[Docwaukee]

you have to assume that your pitcher is going max effort for those 120 pitches these days.  Old school is to pitch and not worry about your max velo.