10/13/15 Cards @ Cubs NLDS game 4 (Lackey vs Hammel)

[bloodbrother]

Question.  Do the Cubs have home field in the NLCS now since they had the best record of teams left?

 

Pretty sure they don't since they are a WC and the other teams are division winners.

[Jay]

I'd rather have the other guys than Maddon

[bloodbrother]

Yeah can we get just....like 2 of the Cubs young hitters? I'll accept that

[Stradling]

I'd rather have the other guys than Maddon

Me too. I would rather have any one of those guys over Maddon and I REALLY like Maddon.

[gurn67]

Makes you wonder where this franchise would be if Moreno had gone after Epstein the way he went after Pujols during the 2011 off-season and gave him complete control. Pretty sure Albert never would have been here, Scioscia wouldn't be here. Hamilton never would have been here. Epstein & Maddon >>>>>>> Moreno & Scioscia

[CaliAngel]

Good for the Cubs but how the hell does Rodney constantly seem to get on playoff teams? Jesus I'm sick of seeing him.

The Lackey jokes never get old. That one with the cowboy hat is freaking gold.

[seenoevil]

Me too. I would rather have any one of those guys over Maddon and I REALLY like Maddon.

 

Joe Maddon > Sosh

[Stradling]

Joe Maddon > Sosh

Ok. Cubs players are better than Angels players.

[DoubleOffTheWall]

joe maddon is better than mike. cubs players are better than angels. it doesn't have to be exclusive. 

[seenoevil]

Go Cubs ! win it for Steve Bartman!

[Tank]

Tonight was the first time the Cubs have ever won a series on their home field, in case no else mentioned it. That's amazing.

Go Cubs!

[Stradling]

joe maddon is better than mike. cubs players are better than angels. it doesn't have to be exclusive.

I know, I was agreeing with him

[Guest]

Man, the Cardinals suck so much. Win 100 games and fizzle out in the first round. 

 

What a bunch of chumps. 

Edited October 14, 2015 by failos

[Stradling]

Matheny should be fired

[gotbeer]

I mean geeze.  They didn't even win to the first wild card team.  They got punked out by the second wild card team.

[Lou]

Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze.

 

Out.

F'n Maddon

[Mark68]

Hopefully that is the end of the Cardinals for awhile. 

Isn't this the first time they didn't get to the NLCS since, like, the 20th century?

[Homebrewer]

I mean geeze. They didn't even win to the first wild card team. They got punked out by the second wild card team.>>>

Yeah Tank...but in the last weeks of the season, the Cubs beat up on STL and PIT...and then they beat up on both of them some more in the post season.

They built all the confidence they needed to compliment the talent and skills that they developed over the season.

Bunch of scary good young kids putting it all together at the right time.

Edited October 14, 2015 by Homebrewer

[Mark68]

The scary thing about the Cubs (much like the Astros) is that the core players are all young and will probably all get better. Except Rizzo. Not sure how much better he can be.

[Homebrewer]

And with Maddon pressing the buttons and pulling the levers..

[Angel Oracle]

Steve Bartman isn't the only one who will be glad if the WS appearance drought ends this month.

Alex Gonzalez will also be glad.    Booting a routine double play grounder was the breaking point in that 8th inning 12 years ago tonight. 

[Homebrewer]

And Dumbsty Baker could have left the frikkin dugout, gone to the mound, and given everyone a much needed moment to calm down and focus...but no...he just sat there sucking his toothpick and watching it all go to shit.

[Jay]

If the Cubs lose they can blame it on Rodney who cursed it yesterday by shooting his arrow before the game was over.

 

or they can blame the goat

[Homebrewer]

The goat is dead.

[Angel Oracle]

Baker and Maddon both took the Cubs to the NLCS in their first season there.

And that's where the comparison ends.

 

Baker managed teams with experience and talent, yet could never get beyond one WS appearance and blowing that one plus the 2003 Cubs NLCS meltdown.

Plus his teams generally declined as he stayed at each stop longer.

 

Maddon built the Rays from the ground floor basically, and took a young Cubs lineup with some solid pitching experience and led them to the NLCS right away.

 

Baker sat back and let his team play with little feedback or change.

 

Maddon is innovative, and yes the pitcher batting 8th may have paid huge dividends yesterday.

 

Baker is stoic.

 

Maddon is focused, but also has fun.