Scioscia is Sporting News' AL Mgr. of the Yr.

[mulwin444]

why should payroll be taken into account for the manager and not the GM?

 

Wasn't it the GM you signed all the players?

Where in my comments did I mention payroll?  No following your rebuttal here...

[Ohtaniland]

I had Scioscia, then Showalter, and then Yost 1-2-3.

Yost only led KC to 3 more wins than in 2013.

3 white managers? Racist!

[nando714]

Fire the big catorce!

[ScottT]

One of the silliest awards.  The LA Sports Awards might be more legit.  

 

They have to give it to somebody. 1 in 15 chance at the start of the year.  Only two or three times in the wild card era has the manager of a non playoff team won.  You can generally rule out Yankees or Red Sox managers because they are expected to win games.  So, two manager of the year awards for Scioscia in fourteen seasons isn't all that meaningful.  

[yk9001]

As Kevin James would say:  Valid-a-she-own!!!

[Angels]

One of the silliest awards. The LA Sports Awards might be more legit.

They have to give it to somebody. 1 in 15 chance at the start of the year. Only two or three times in the wild card era has the manager of a non playoff team won. You can generally rule out Yankees or Red Sox managers because they are expected to win games. So, two manager of the year awards for Scioscia in fourteen seasons isn't all that meaningful.

Anyone who watched him manage during the postseason should be able to tell what a farce this win is.

The Angels had one of the highest payrolls in baseball with some amazing talent this year. Would Scioscia have won this award had he been managing the Twins?

[Blarg]

One of the silliest awards.  The LA Sports Awards might be more legit.  

 

They have to give it to somebody. 1 in 15 chance at the start of the year.  Only two or three times in the wild card era has the manager of a non playoff team won.  You can generally rule out Yankees or Red Sox managers because they are expected to win games.  So, two manager of the year awards for Scioscia in fourteen seasons isn't all that meaningful.  

 

Would it suddenly become meaningful if Joe Maddon won it?

[Guest]

Yost literally cost his team the Division Championship.  The Royals are winning despite him.  He's a liability to his team and all the writers and managers know that.

During the wild card game Yost gave away tons of outs with moronic bunt attempts. He also very nearly cost them the game going with the rookie starter, Ventura, on short rest in relief when there were other options available. Since then though their pitching has been nearly Yost-proof.

 

 

Definitely well deserved.  If only his players had bothered to show up for the ALDS.

I would have like Campana to show up on teh roster instead of Hamilton. Look at how instrumental Dyson and Gore have been to the Royals as pinch runners. But thanks to Mike "Arte says Hamilton is too expensive to sit" Scioscia, it wasn't meant to be

Edited October 21, 2014 by ScottLux

[Ohtaniland]

Would it suddenly become meaningful if Joe Maddon won it?

It should actually be called the Joe Maddon Award.

[mtangelsfan]

One of the silliest awards.  The LA Sports Awards might be more legit.  

 

They have to give it to somebody. 1 in 15 chance at the start of the year.  Only two or three times in the wild card era has the manager of a non playoff team won.  You can generally rule out Yankees or Red Sox managers because they are expected to win games.  So, two manager of the year awards for Scioscia in fourteen seasons isn't all that meaningful.  

 

Ha ha, what do other managers know anyways. 

 

Anyone who watched him manage during the postseason should be able to tell what a farce this win is.

 

Classic, I'm sure the other managers didn't watch any post season baseball.

 

"Fans know more!!!!"

 

[Blarg]

Anyone who watched him manage during the postseason should be able to tell what a farce this win is.

The Angels had one of the highest payrolls in baseball with some amazing talent this year. Would Scioscia have won this award had he been managing the Twins?

 

Payroll certainly helped Scioscia out when Skaggs and Richards went down for the season.

 

The Twins stink, have no talent to compete and no manager improves their lot this season so thanks for the idiotic strawman argument.

 

How about this, Scioscia manages the A's this season, do you think they take a three month dump to lose the AL West title?

[Blarg]

It should actually be called the Joe Maddon Award.

 

For coming in 4th place in your division?

[Angels]

Payroll certainly helped Scioscia out when Skaggs and Richards went down for the season.

The Twins stink, have no talent to compete and no manager improves their lot this season so thanks for the idiotic strawman argument.

How about this, Scioscia manages the A's this season, do you think they take a three month dump to lose the AL West title?

Shoemaker pitching like an ace and Rasmus putting up zeroes certainly helped. Not to mention the shutdown pen that Dipoto gave him.

That's the point! The Twins stunk and had no talent. Had Scioscia been managing the Twins he would not have won this award because managers don't win this award while managing teams devoid of talent.

And Beane would never hire someone like Scioscia to begin with.

Edited October 21, 2014 by Angels

[mtangelsfan]

Shoemaker pitching like an ace and Rasmus putting up zeroes certainly helped.

That's the point! The Twins stunk and had no talent. Had Scioscia been managing the Twins he would not have won this award because managers don't win this award while managing teams devoid of talent.

And Beane would never hire someone like Scioscia to begin with.

 

My 9 year old does a better job of covering his ears when he doesn't want to hear the truth.

[ABC]

But ........But.........He had Calhoun bunt on a 3-1 count!!!

 

It was not the proper call. Scioscia bunts too often. As a whole Sosh is a great manager but he has his deficiencies. 

[mtangelsfan]

It really is remarkable that the same folks that want to put the blame on Sosh for the post season refuse to give him any credit for the regular season.

 

 

Regardless, as I've repeatedly said, the credit and blame should go to the entire club.  Players, staff and front office. 

[floplag]

and yet half the posters here want him fired... funny

[yk9001]

Hamilton being only healthy for 89 games helped Sosh.  He would have played him and we'd have had to endure his suckitude much more if he were healthy.

[Blarg]

Shoemaker pitching like an ace and Rasmus putting up zeroes certainly helped. Not to mention the shutdown pen that Dipoto gave him.

That's the point! The Twins stunk and had no talent. Had Scioscia been managing the Twins he would not have won this award because managers don't win this award while managing teams devoid of talent.

And Beane would never hire someone like Scioscia to begin with.

well no ****ing shit dude. But managers do get awards for taking a team full of holes and guiding it through to the division title.

When you look at the rotation for the last 6 weeks he had Weaver and Shoemaker then three days of frying the bullpen. The last 4 weeks he lost Shoemaker and the team still didn't collapse.

Meanwhile up the road the A's couldn't pull their heads out of their assets and Melvin certainly didn't win any awards hitting every iceberg along the way.

Just pull your head out for a while and take into account, real account, what Scioscia had to do the entire season. No other manager thought he did anything less than a miracle while other teams in the division and around the league did far worse with far more real resources.

[Angels]

Lol. Methinks you're giving a wee bit too much credit to a man who sits on his ass in the dugout and too little to the actual players who, you know, actually played on the field.

This award is only given to managers managing teams full of talent. That's a fact. You will never see a manager win this award if their team is devoid of talent. This award really means nothing.

[mtangelsfan]

Lol. Methinks you're giving a wee bit too much credit to a man who sits on his ass in the dugout and too little to the actual players who, you know, actually played on the field.

This award is only given to managers managing teams full of talent. That's a fact. You will never see a manager win this award if their team is devoid of talent. This award really means nothing.

 

and yet you were one of the loudest critics of Sosh during the playoffs, blaming him for the loss.

[Angels]

Not true. I blamed the offense for collectively sucking and Scioscia at the same time. They both deserved the blame.

[Docwaukee]

so it's Scioscia's fault they lost in the playoffs, but the players deserve the credit for the regular season.  

 

okee dokee.

[mtangelsfan]

No no, it makes sense.........................................

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ok, not really.

[stormngt]

I was meant for another post. Don't know how it ended up in yours.

Where in my comments did I mention payroll? No following your rebuttal here...