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It's time to give credit where credit is due ...


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Good point.

Im not gonna give butcher a whole ton of credit, because hes got better 'clay' to mold this year.

That said, i never felt he was 'the' problem back when our pitchers were struggling either.

Its like hatcher. He caught a lot of flack (a lot rightly so). But the front office never stacked the bats to match the powerhouse teams (skanks, sux, texas) for a good chunk of his decade either. So hatcher wasnt the great mentor in 2002, 04 or 09, neither was he the main reason we failed in 05, 06, 07 etc.

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Here's my thought on comparing Butcher and Hatcher. If Butcher was no longer the Angels pitching coach would another team hire him to be their pitching coach? I think so. You can't say that about Hatcher. He hasn't been hired to be a hitting coach anywhere else, nor do I think he will be.

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Here's my thought on comparing Butcher and Hatcher. If Butcher was no longer the Angels pitching coach would another team hire him to be their pitching coach? I think so. You can't say that about Hatcher. He hasn't been hired to be a hitting coach anywhere else, nor do I think he will be.

 

Agreed. I've criticized Butcher a lot in the past, but the work he's done with Richards, Santiago, Jepsen, Rasmus, etc this year is impressive. I can't think of a young hitter Hatcher made better in his time in Anaheim. Figgins maybe? Seriously can't think of any others. Aybar got a little better, and Kendrick has been the same hitter since the day he stepped foot in the Bigs.

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