2014 First-Year Player Draft Thread

[Broad Street]

What does Kipper throw?

[JarsOfClay]

And you know this because you've seen them play and have a better understanding than Ric Wilson and their scouts?

 

maybe he hasn't seen them play but this is the internet age, many scouts outside the angels organization have watched them play and their reports are readily available to the rest of the world.  it's fair for him to justify his opinion based on that.

 

it's silly to assume the angels scouts are the only ones who are qualified to judge talent like your post implies.

[tdawg87]

This has become the Frieri of threads.

[James]

His post doesnt imply that at all. Nice try?

[Dave Saltzer]

#27 JORDAN KIPPER

P • 6-4 • 210 • R/ R • JR

PHOENIX, ARIZ.

CENTRAL ARIZONA COLLEGE

 

 

Career Honors:

• 2014 Big 12 Championships All-Tournament team

• Named Big 12 Newcomer of the Week (April 13)

Career Highlights:

• Made his TCU debut on Feb. 18 in a start against Northern Colorado

• Team is 11-4 in games he pitches

• TCU is 10-2 in games he starts

• Allowed five of six inherited runners to score

 

 

KIPPER’S Career Stats

Yr. ERA W-L G-GS CG SH/CB SV IP H R ER BB SO WP HP

‘14 3.01 8-2 15-12 0 0/3 0 68.2 61 30 23 14 65 4 4

Season Highs

SO..................................................... 8, twice

Walks...............................................2, twice

Hits.................................................. 8, twice

IP............................8.0 vs. Dallas Baptist 4/8

ER.............................6 vs. UT Arlington 2/25

Career Highs

SO..................................................... 8, twice

Walks...............................................2, twice

Hits.................................................. 8, twice

IP.......................8.0 vs. Dallas Baptist 4/8/14

ER........................6 vs. UT Arlington 2/25/14

Career Honors:

• 2014 Big 12 Championships All-Tournament team

• Named Big 12 Newcomer of the Week (April 13)

Career Highlights:

• Made his TCU debut on Feb. 18 in a start against Northern Colorado

• Team is 11-4 in games he pitches

• TCU is 10-2 in games he starts

• Allowed five of six inherited runners to score

Date Opponent W-L-SV ERA IP H R ER BB SO HP BF

2/18 N’ern Colorado* 1-0-0 1.50 6.0 3 3 1 0 8 0 22

2/25 UT Arlington* 1-1-0 6.30 4.0 8 7 6 1 3 0 21

3/4 Dallas Baptist* 1-1-0 5.40 5.0 7 3 2 1 1 0 22

3/11 Rice* 1-2-0 6.05 4.1 6 5 4 1 4 1 21

3/18 Oklahoma 1-2-0 6.10 1.1 2 2 1 1 1 0 7

3/23 Texas Tech 1-2-0 6.97 0.0 0 2 2 2 0 0 2

3/25 UT Pan Am* 2-2-0 5.61 5.0 4 0 0 2 7 0 20

4/1 UT Arlington* 3-2-0 5.29 6.2 8 4 3 1 7 0 30

4/8 Dallas Baptist* 4-2-0 4.46 8.0 4 1 1 0 8 1 28

4/15 Houston Baptist* 5-2-0 3.88 6.0 4 0 0 1 7 0 24

4/22 Texas Tech* 6-2-0 3.40 6.2 4 0 0 0 4 0 23

4/29 Stephen F. Austin* 7-2-0 3.27 2.0 2 0 0 0 3 0 8

5/4 Kansas State* 7-2-0 3.63 2.0 4 3 3 2 1 1 12

5/16 Baylor 7-2-0 3.36 4.2 2 0 0 1 4 0 15

5/21 Baylor* 8-2-0 3.01 7.0 3 0 0 1 7 1 26

[James]

Anyways, good to see more pitching depth continued to Be added

[jshep]

His post doesnt imply that at all. Nice try?

 

Oh good god, the irony here.

[jshep]

This has become the Frieri of threads.

 

This thread just gave up a HR to a Texas Ranger?

[tdawg87]

Dave, thanks for gathering all this info on these guys. I'm sitting here going "oh cool the Angels drafted...um......this guy".

[James]

Dave, thanks for gathering all this info on these guys. I'm sitting here going "oh cool the Angels drafted...um......this guy".

Haha, exactly. Thanks Dave.

[Dave Saltzer]

From 2 years ago (October 2012)

 

RHP Jordan Kipper (Central Arizona) - Kipper is a tall (6'4, 210), sturdy pitcher w/ a projectable frame.  He has been drafted twice before (out of high school and after his frosh season), but decided to return for his sophomore year.  He has committed to TCU.  Overall, he was fairly unimpressive.  He came from a H 3/4, SWU that has some questions, as he has a hook in his delivery and doesn't really engage his lower half.  Stuffwise, he attacked with a FB at 86-88 with run and sink, but dropped to 83-84 range in the 2nd inning.  His CH was his best secondary at 80-83 that had fade and sink w/ gd armspeed which he was around the zone with.  His SL was a spinner that broke gradually when right.  Doesn't really have an out pitch and projects to me more as a reliever.

 

 

Hoping he added some velocity.

[Dave Saltzer]

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According to a report in the Awhatukee Foothills News, TCU has added a JUCO commit to its 2013 class in Jordan Kipper, currently a sophomore at Central Arizona Community college. Jordan was a teammate of Kevin Cron at Mountain Pointe High School when they won the Arizona State Championship.

Jordan is a top level RHP who has been drafted twice already, in the 2011 Draft (39th Round) by the Dodgers and the 2012 Draft (30th Round) by the Phillies. He is viewed as a top flight projectable arm, 6'4" 200lbs. who has added a lot of velocity over the last three years. He throws from a high 3/4 arm slot and gets a lot of movement on his FB, CU and CH.

Jordan is the 11th commit for TCU's 2013 class, the sixth committed specifically as a pitcher.

Jordan had an outstanding freshman campaign with CACC, recording a solid 9-3 record through 15 appearances.

 

GRADE RECORD INNINGS PITCHED ERA STRIKEOUTS WALKS Freshman 9 - 3 (15 Games) 90.2 2.78 76 20
 

[Dave Saltzer]

From BA--appears the velocity may have improved from 2 years ago, which explains why he wasn't drafted then

 

Like Young, Jr. RHPs Trey Teakell and Jordan Kipper give TCU additional starting options if necessary, or they could serve as strike-throwing long relievers or setup men. Both work at the bottom of the zone with a fastball that reaches 91; Kipper has an effective short slider, and Teakell’s breaking ball has improved significantly.

[Dave Saltzer]

10

299

 

Adams, Caleb

U Louisiana Lafayette (LA)

LF

R/R

JR

6'0" 185lbs DOB: 01/26/93

[Dave Saltzer]

Player

avg

gp-gs

ab

r

h

2b

3b

hr

rbi

tb

slg%

bb

hbp

so

gdp

ob%

sf

sh

sb

sba

po

a

e

fld%

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Adams, Caleb

.387

64-60

212

66

82

17

7

11

42

146

.689

45

10

56

1

.509

2

3

6

12

110

1

1

.991

[Dave Saltzer]

Uh-oh folks, Caleb Adams aspires to be a . . . lawyer! Yikes!

[Dave Saltzer]

Okay folks, I'm done for a while and probably won't be able to do this tomorrow.

[Docwaukee]

Okay folks, I'm done for a while and probably won't be able to do this tomorrow.

thanks for the updates Dave!!!

[DB24]

"A kipper is a whole herring..":

 

Another guy with a name somehow related to a fish lol

[ten ocho recon scout]

Damn, Giants just got Stetson Woods.

Another good name

if this baseball thing doesnt work out hes definitely got a future in 80's porn.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Is it me, or does this jordan kipper guy look like someone who made guest appearances on magnum pi and the a team?

[Inside Pitch]

Because there was position players on the board that I felt were better picks than a reliever like Rhodes. Just my opinion 

 

Fair enough.

[Inside Pitch]

Damn, TIgers drafted Joey Pankake

 

Lots of great BB names in this draft.

[Inside Pitch]

I've wondered if it would be worth taking a flyer on him about now and seeing if a million could sway him out of his college commitment. It might be worth losing a couple of players in the 5-7 rounds to get him to sign. Some team will try to do it.

 

You really can't do that anymore...  Due to the slot money issues and the budgets, once a guy says he won't sign you are basically forced to either blow your first round pick on him and screw your draft or pass.

[Inside Pitch]

maybe he hasn't seen them play but this is the internet age, many scouts outside the angels organization have watched them play and their reports are readily available to the rest of the world.  it's fair for him to justify his opinion based on that.

 

it's silly to assume the angels scouts are the only ones who are qualified to judge talent like your post implies.

 

 

Meh...  As far as silliness goes...  It's probably safe to argue that most of those sources you speak of are operated by people no different than the people on this board and just as ignorant to the strengths  and weaknesses of players nationwide across the many different conferences and leagues much less be able to extrapolate anything from the stats produced in them...  This is particularly true once you get passed the 4th round and the top 200 players are off the table.   To the best of my knowledge, places like BBA and the sort don't go beyond the top 200, I'm not sure anyone else has a network of people large enough to be able to speak intelligently on the matter.

 

Only reason I asked why he felt that was because I was curious if maybe he felt the Angels needed to go focus on position players over pitchers.  Didn't expect it to turn into a tinkle-fest.

Edited June 7, 2014 by Inside Pitch